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Originally Posted by zachvac
ok a few things I think is wrong with this. First off I'll say I have no clue who Batista is so I'm probably going to make an ass of myself again but I don't consider someone having good mtt results as proof that they're good at poker. A lot of mtt players are good at poker, but I played with a ton of people this summer with 7 figures in scores, and several were pretty horrendous (obviously the majority were pretty good though).I think any serious poker player that doesn't know what getting 2:1 even means is just plain ******ed. It's one thing if they were good and never had the chance to learn, but given what's out there that means he literally refused to learn something that's pretty ****ing important when the stacks get shallow. It's going to basically be the deciding factor in a lot of spots where he opens and gets shoved on. So I think playing mtts for a living and not taking the very small amount of time it takes to learn pot odds is like being an olympic track athlete that refuses to use their arms. It's just willfully handicapping yourself.
huh?
I mean, sure, it's pretty easy to find the one hit wonders, where someone has a one time huge score to send their roi to the ceiling and then either breaks even or loses everywhere else, but I'm pretty sure there is something to be said for consistent stats showing a winning player over a large sample size! You are a self-admitted NON-mtt'r, so maybe you don't understand how to read mtt stats. Also, just because you encountered a few live luckboxes this summer, still does not 100% validate your statement.
And, no one is saying that Chad doesn't understand what getting 2:1 is or that he puts himself in exploitable situations or that he refused to learn?...I mean, do you really think that someone with results like he has, does not inherently understand or utilize these concepts?
(you really don't know who he is...do some research...he was the best in the world for a long time) He obviously understands them as they relate situationally, having a long term winning history, he just may not be able to put this into words or explain exactly what he is doing. I can for sure relate to this on a personal level as well. When I first started out online, and my bf would review HH with me and would ask me why I did something - sometimes I had a difficult time explaining it, while fundamentally having played it correctly and knowing I played correctly....and then he would explain to me why I did it, and I would be like "RIGHT" that's what I was thinking! but was having a hard time putting it into words. I think it takes time for some players to be able to
verbalize exactly what their thought process is, even though they are correctly applying the concepts. I think this applies to a decent amount of players who have not learned the game or "come up" through the traditional means. It is def mind boggling, but I have met too many top players both live and online who fit this description. Again: There is more than 1 way to win!