Hi BPPlatform, thank you for your post. I appreciate your questions and the points you raise, and everybody should be encouraged to do this before blindly assuming the credentials of a coach. I will concisely answer each of your points and correct some assumptions I think you have made. I trust that you will be satisfied with my response.
Why do you feel like you have the authority to publish 'crushing 18man series' when your lifetime sample is a mere 11k with a lot of old games in it.
My students sample size for 18-mans under my coaching is well in excess of 50,000 games, the vast majority of these games being from 2012 and the last few months. I consider this sample size to be vast and up-to-date. They have profited heavily pre and post-rakeback. Attached are the pre-rakeback, lifetime 18-man stats of my current 18-man students. Kindly note that a large portion of MCC2005's 18-man stats is before we began coaching on them.
Although I would consider an 11,000 game sample rather large and reliable, I currently don't play 18-mans much because I want to maximize value for my students by not sitting the same games as them. In addition, I can earn sizeable hourly rates in other games such as the $30-100 6-max hyper turbos. I'm also a far better player than I was when much of that sample was played.
Of course you still made 40k, and you elaborately explained your pursuit to SNE and its consequences (I followed your thread). However, you didn't
make ACTUAL money from your sngs.
Attached are my total SNG results for 2011. As you can see I made somewhere around $93,000. This figure is actually grossly understated. My rakeback earned % is considerably higher than the default rakeback % associated with Supernova Elite and Black Card+Iron Man alone, because I earned quite a few thousand dollars on Battle of the Planets and many thousand dollars on SNG Madness (>$5k in one weekend the last time it ran on FTP). So I earned over $100,000.
I also wrote a 15,000 word thesis, completed my final year of university and exams, graduated, spent a week earning a UK cricket coaching certificate, and travelled for the last month of the year. We also suffered a serious family bereavement at the beginning of the year which threw things off for the first few weeks. I also coached JTDStreet to Supernova Elite and had other successful students including UPGRAYEDD420. These two guys earned over $135,000 between them. Overall it felt like a great year!
I think a coach that sells "crushing 18 mans" should AT LEAST be a winner pre rakeback, not be a rake back pro that loses money in the games.
Prior to chasing Supernova Elite in 4 months (which earned me well over $10,000/month plus large future value and enormous pride), I was somewhere around $75,000 up before rakeback on SNGs over a career spanning tens of thousands of SNGs and years. I simply chose what would maximize my $hourly rate and achieve my dreams. I would not expect to be profitable pre-rakeback when 30-60 tabling every day for months grinding some of the toughest SNGs out there, but the net result was a huge success for me and I'm very grateful.
There are already plenty of regs with similar stats that are definately not
classified to say they are "crushing". Obviously crushing is a relative term, but I'd say that the majority would agree with me that this cannot be mentioned as "crushing".
My two main students are $67,000 up in the last 3 months between them, over a sample size of over 20,000 games at $3.2/game profit, including rakeback (I have deliberately understated their rakeback%, it is actually higher than that with Battle of the Planets). Their average ROI is double digits. Excluding rakeback, it comes to $40,000 profit with 6% average ROI and $2/game profit.
BigTunna99 is #1 in the world for $36-100 18-man SNGs this year, and #3 in the world for all stakes of 18-mans this year. Sooo Tilted is up to #7 in the world for $16-35 18-mans this year and rapidly rising. I believe this is satisfactory proof of crushing. Neither of them had ever played 18-mans until we started working on them just before this year. They deserve huge recognition for sustaining over $10k/month earnings and are on both on course for six-figure years.
In addition, it is also very convenient that everyone who has mediocre overall results has rake back added in their results to make them look better than they are (which you did with your students).
All pre-rakeback stats are shown in this post, and are not mediocre. For those with less profit now, in the next couple months there will be a night-and-day difference. Sooo Tilted's results have almost inverted and all students go through a learning curve, breaking even for quite some time before breaking the glass ceiling. Mastering SNGs doesn't happen overnight, or in a week or in a month. It's a long, sustained effort with hard work and dedication from everyone involved.
Furthermore It is misleading to post certain timespans that are conveniently chosen, for example Soo Tilted is not a winning player but his testimonial and/or review of your lessons do suggest he has completely destroyed the games (which he obviously did in your chosen period). I'd say a very smart piece of marketing.
Sooo Tilted appears to have reset his stats so they show his last 12,000 18-man SNGs. I would consider a 12,000 game, up-to-date sample size for 18-man turbo SNGs very reliable. That's half a years' sample size for many top grinders.
I appreciate your reasoned enquiry and think it is a great way to expose false claims and prove and strengthen genuine coaches credentials.
Best regards,
Ivan
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