thanks for the video.

I am one of these mediocre players who cant put in alot of volume and want to progress to somewhere. A few weeks ago I started playing 5NL zoom and you are totally right about these games. They are pretty nitty and it takes alot of volume to get something back.
Taking your advice I am ready to move to a different site, but I still want to move up from micro stakes, so what kind of games would be your suggestion?!

888 and Unibet are my stock responses to that question.

If you live in Sweden, Svenska Spel looks insanely soft from what I have seen and if you live in the UK, then Sky Poker although having awful software will be a good place for you to try.

GL with the switch.

I understand and agree with what you are saying - finding the softest sites out there is the easiest way to move up/win more money... but, if you can't beat 5nl (no matter what site), you have some major flaws in your game.

Just a general question on why your bet sizes look to be always around 50-65% of pot once flop hits.

Also not sure why you didn't c-bet that flop with the AJ at 13 minutes.

I don`t know how i opened this thread but i`ve crushed zoom fr nl50-100 before i swithced to 6max so i`m qualified to answer that. Here`s the deal. Basically the tables at nl5 being so nitty is a gift for you and you have to realise that. That means opponents are so imbalanced that you can run over them + they don`t adjust enough so you can do that forever. You can barelly extract cause you are playing the same style, shoot for 20/18/8 (just an example) but be extremely post flop aware, think ranges and evaluate different scenarios off the table, do it not with the biggest hands, but with simple ones.
Example 1: You open JJ from Mp3 and CO calls, K 9 3 rainbow, what do you do, why, what range is he calling with, how would he respond in the different scenarios, what information are you giving out, how can you use that and how he can use that, analyze simple spots a lot and counteract certain types of play with exactly the opposite..

Example 2: CO opens, SB 3bets, you are in the BB, what are their ranges based on their stats, what would a cold 4bet from you achieve, by what % would they respond and how wide should you do that to make it profitable, how considering blockers would help you, equilab work, ranges work, think of using lines which are not standart and exploit the fr players who don`t defend enough by default
Good luck

Nice post Excite but your response sums up exactly what I'm trying to say.

Lots of players simply don't have the time, or inclination to do the kind of work you suggest.

They don't want to be doing lots of complicated work like that to make a few $$ from something that they do as a pastime and for fun.

Learning how to beat nitt/regs. That's what poker has become?

Until a few years ago, poker used to be about finding players you're better than and getting their money. Sure, that's not as easy now as it once was but I still think that should be the core value of every single one of us.

If we have to learn to beat nitty hardcore grinders to claim our piece of the pie, then I'm not sure online poker has much of a future. Fortunately, I think we're a long way away from that just yet (unless you play zoom).

Hi Reg74, the game is tougher than ever and that`s true. However, beating nits is extremely easy, if what i wrote up there sounds complicated that`s because poker is hard and complex game and if you want to succeed in a highly competitive environment you gotta put the work in, i really don`t think that`s the case on nl5 but nl50zoom is definately like that. If you want to be a recreational player that`s great, don`t expect to win big however, that`s true for every aspect of business and life. What i meant is that a better response to the guys struggling with the nits and looking for another (shady) site is "stop being weak-tight, here`s how", the moment i realised that is the moment since i got love for poker and finally understood what it is all about which enabled me to think of ways to move up out of the micro stakes efficiently.

I hear and read people saying how easy it is to beat nits all the time.

It's simply not true and I know people say just steal their blind etc etc but is that really what we all want to be doing with our poker, stealing nits blinds all day and getting into tiresome reg wars?

I've been a 10bb winner on 888 for nearly 4 years and I'm nothing much more than a decent nit/TAG that keeps things pretty simple for the most part.

There are tonnes of regs around that will swear up and down that they're better than me because they're rocking a 27/23 style with an 11% 3bet or whatever but it's simply not true.

I still think (not on stars) that a winrate of 7bb+ is comfortably achievable playing a relatively nitty style and being very exploitable theoretically because that is what I have been doing and continue to do because even though many moderate players know I'm a nit, they still spew against me because they're largely incapable of adjusting and moving away from their 'standards'.

Will I ever be the next big poker superstar? Definitely not but I don't want to be. Will I still be around in 5 years time, churning out consistent results without having changed my game much? Almost certainly unless the poker landscape changes dramatically in that time.