i need to be right 28% of the time
i dont know much about this guy
i have top pair on a dry board
i call

Non turbo it's probably a fold, those nits never vbet anything we beat. If it's a turbo call for Tamas reasons

A7 is probably the weakest hand i call river with since A5, A4 and A3 makes it less likely for him to turn gutshots.

Also since its a reg and its a close spot calling and ending the match has the added benefit of enabeling us to get to our next game faster. In wich we probably are going to play a fish instead.

nope/dont really know/dont care m8

in a more serious post i honestly think this is super spewy to fold the river here.

in a ton of spots u only ever have to be able to beat 2 value hands to make a call but lets say if this guy has A4 and A5 and A3 here which is 3 value hands we beat he never has to be bluffing and its +ev to call

so theres no chance im going to fold here in a close spot readless

ez fold imo

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A10

do you sit regs at your level?

what is that supposed to mean/.? yes i do


and i dont understand why are so many ppl saying snapall, straightforward 50$ regs dont barrel 3 streets w/ air like this, they would bet the turn bigger or river smaller, and no one bluffs on a blank river like that, that betsize says 2pair to me at least

It seems tight, I dont really agree about river sizings, I think you could argue if villain bets 1/2 pot otr here we could fold but imo this sizing indicates he wants to rob us, especially readless.

so you are folding if he bets 1/2 and calling if he bets 2/3? wat
no these 400, 410, and 420 are strong hands that are trying to look like bluffs, no draws missed no nothing, do you really think villain is barreling 9high there hoping we would fold Jx or Ax?

not 9 high no, at least its not what i want him to.

I think it's pretty clear than half pot bets absolutely need to be called with A7 (or any ace) because then he definitely will be v-betting worse (or a chop) and we're getting way too good of a price.

^^

Is a shove not better if this is our read?. We rep pretty strong if we shove here. Again it makes a huge difference if he thinks we are a reg. Regs at the $50 level probably look you up on sharkscope, see that you have + sign next to your name and insta fold a river shove with a9-ak. If however you have a fishbowl next to your name and you shove the river they snap call with their ace cuz you obviously turned k10 into a bluff.

I can't wait to see how bad I get flamed for this.

Turbo: I'm calling

Reg-speed: I'm folding river

So it is a fold with the bet size on the river in your example.

Can you tell us when the article will be published and where? Interested in this because you said we should be 3 barreling here a lot and I know myself I wouldn't be. As for the OP..I'm most likely folding. I suck though

half pot or 420 shouldn't really be a reason to call or fold. I believe half pot is 340. Many times I am more likely to snap off bigger bets. its 80 more but when you call with the best hand you win 80 more chips. Don't call if you think you got the second best hand too much. Now of course you can say you need to draw the line somewhere for instance if he bet 20 on the river you are getting such great odds to call but you saying 420 should be folded (if you are) and 340 bets have to absolutely be called is really not a good way to look at this hand. If you focus too much on pot odds/math on the river you may start making calls AND folds for the wrong reasons.

It's pretty annoying that you keep arguing against what you think I'm claiming about the original hand, even after I've told you you're wrong about those assumptions.

you told me I was right. just discussing strategy and am basically saying I don't agree with your reasoning on why we need to call half pot bets. Don't ask for opinions if you don't actually want them. You said the article is on why triple barreling this board is so profitable but now you are saying a half pot bet is a call. (Meaning triple barreling isn't good when you only bet half pot otr.) So unless you are playing devils advocate or have changed your position I don't know what your talking about. I really don't see a good argument as to why 340 is an absolute call but when you bet 420 now it turns into a great triple barrel bluff. WHAT IS THE ARTICLE ON THEN how you can't bet half pot but gotta bet 80 more?

What are your actual claims/assumptions on this hand since we are all telling you ours for free and ur prolly gonna make some $ off this article?

I am here discussing strategy and would love to gain some of your insight because that means I would be gaining knowledge and growing as a poker player.

No don't shove.. We are calling because we have showdown value vs his bluffs. We win the pot when we are right and wouldn't get more chips by shoving. Don't turn this hand into a bluff.

I have the impression that most $50 regs will check behind otr with weak aces or with KK, QQ, KJ etc. So most of the time, everything in his value range beats us. And a lot of them just give up after one or two barrels bluffing.
So I'm probably folding here.

everything in his value range beats us we are trying to catch a bluff

lol