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05-18-2010, 06:38 AM
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old hand
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,810
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Re: superturbo HUsngs on ftp
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Originally Posted by Joe Pulaski
can i get full tilt to ban me from these stupid things? im pretty sure stars support can restrict tables but i bet ft cant cause theyre worthless
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No I tried myself. They can ban you from all sngs/mtts but not just the hyper turbos. Basically lost me as a player b/c of that. Shame that I have rakeback going to waste too.
Played a few small buy in ones today, they ruined them tbh. 500 chips now instead of 300. Less gambool, more sitting and waiting.
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06-01-2010, 10:36 AM
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#47
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grinder
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 456
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How can we beat fulltilt HU super turbos @ the highest roi? We talk strategy & show graphs itt
I am interested in improving my roi in fulltilt's HU super turbo's where you start with 25x the big blind. I play primarily the $35's and am beating them at a 5% roi over 300+ games. If there is anyone who is beating these at a higher roi please post your graph/stats & shed some light on what you think you are doing that is responsible for your success. Are you minbumping, 2.5x, or 3xing every time you come into a pot? Do you use sharkscope, poker-edge, or anther program for these? What is the bottom of your open shoving range against a random opponent for 10/11/12/13/14/15x? What Kind of notes/color coding do you use for these to aid your table selection? (I make long time winners/difficult opponents blue/green, average players yellow, poor player orange/red and the worst players purple to aid in table selection which is especially important when I take $50 & $100 shots in these).
The best person I can find in these is Tomtrippy who is killing the $35 hyper's at 15% roi over 800+ games! How is that even possible ? What is this guy doing to have attained that high of an roi in these? His profit in these only makes up 1/5th of his HUSNG winnings btw so he is an obvious stud. Everyone who is killing these at least 5+% what info can you share with the 2+2 community & I ? Thank you in advance everyone. I would love to see some graphs and how everyone is doing in these. Gl at the table guys
My stats:
http://www.pokerprolabs.com/topshark...namenttype=hup
http://www.pokerprolabs.com/Personal...=1&w=240&h=180
Last edited by fullyfocused; 06-01-2010 at 10:42 AM.
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06-01-2010, 10:58 AM
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#48
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: it is ofc not about the move
Posts: 4,686
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Re: How can we beat fulltilt HU super turbos @ the highest roi? We talk strategy & show graphs
I don't play the ST's but a 300 game sample is not even going to give you anything close to your true roi. Look for some of primo's recent graphs.
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06-01-2010, 10:59 AM
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#49
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: SHEOL
Posts: 8,746
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Re: How can we beat fulltilt HU super turbos @ the highest roi? We talk strategy & show graphs
Got nothing to share besides: Neither 300 nor 800 games are even close to what i would call "samplesize".
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06-01-2010, 11:02 AM
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09 HUNL Forum Champ
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: god takes care of himself & u of u
Posts: 2,907
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Re: How can we beat fulltilt HU super turbos @ the highest roi? We talk strategy & show graphs
is this supposed to be a thinly veiled brag thread?
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06-01-2010, 11:26 AM
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#51
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grinder
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 456
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Re: How can we beat fulltilt HU super turbos @ the highest roi? We talk strategy & show graphs
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Originally Posted by bbbushu
is this supposed to be a thinly veiled brag thread?
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I had a feeling i was going to hear this word for word. This is not a brag thread. You can tell by all the questions asked and call for help. I am obviously not crushing these at 5% and bragging about it if someone is doing it at 3x that roi. I am just looking for help and interested in seeing others success. I have no problem sharing & I like looking at others graphs so I decided to post my own. These are not my strongest game and I am looking to improve. I understand that I have a small sample size for these specific tournaments. My other husng data on FT is irrelevant as is my PS data to what I am asking about which is how to beat 25xbb supers at a higher roi on FT. Any help is appreciated TY.
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06-01-2010, 11:29 AM
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#52
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Milliard Chillmore
Posts: 6,043
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Re: How can we beat fulltilt HU super turbos @ the highest roi? We talk strategy & show graphs
lol dude you are so naive with regards to sample size and variance. 5 roi is crushing these, but youre prob just running well. the 15 guy has a horseshoe up his ass, no way even close to sustainable.
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06-01-2010, 11:38 AM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: mr/folding 4.5bb deep
Posts: 4,218
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Re: How can we beat fulltilt HU super turbos @ the highest roi? We talk strategy & show graphs
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Originally Posted by Joe Pulaski
lol dude you are so naive with regards to sample size and variance. 5 roi is crushing these, but youre prob just running well. the 15 guy has a horseshoe up his ass, no way even close to sustainable.
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+1
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06-01-2010, 12:00 PM
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#54
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: I beat 50NL, do not argue with me!
Posts: 8,984
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Re: How can we beat fulltilt HU super turbos @ the highest roi? We talk strategy & show graphs
come back when you got couple of thousands of games (preferably 5k games+)
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06-01-2010, 12:37 PM
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#55
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grinder
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 456
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Re: How can we beat fulltilt HU super turbos @ the highest roi? We talk strategy & show graphs
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Originally Posted by fullyfocused
If there is anyone who is beating these at a higher roi please post your graph/stats & shed some light on what you think you are doing that is responsible for your success. Are you minbumping, 2.5x, or 3xing every time you come into a pot? Do you use sharkscope, poker-edge, or anther program for these? What is the bottom of your open shoving range against a random opponent for 10/11/12/13/14/15x?
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Anybody? Hokiegreg?
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06-01-2010, 12:42 PM
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#56
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See my coaching listing
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: @glitlr_ on Twitter
Posts: 4,727
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Re: How can we beat fulltilt HU super turbos @ the highest roi? We talk strategy & show graphs
1 table, don't lose = highest roi.
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06-01-2010, 12:52 PM
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#57
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grinder
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 456
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Re: How can we beat fulltilt HU super turbos @ the highest roi? We talk strategy & show graphs
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Originally Posted by Glitlr
1 table, don't lose = highest roi.
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Hey glitlr, I have played with you a ton on stars. the $16's I believe. Respect to your game bro, you are solid. How many tables do you play? Got to be at least 8 no? I remember you and eljuni banging out massive volume in those when I was playing them in dec/jan. What has improved your game? Any tips you can give me? What videos/coaches have helped you? What programs do you use? ect ect ect
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06-01-2010, 01:04 PM
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#58
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: I beat 50NL, do not argue with me!
Posts: 8,984
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Re: superturbo HUsngs on ftp
maybe if you didnt come over as such a leech, people would give some advice
just maybe
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06-01-2010, 01:12 PM
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#59
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grinder
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 456
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Re: superturbo HUsngs on ftp
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Originally Posted by spamz0r
maybe if you didnt come over as such a leech, people would give some advice
just maybe
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I thought this forum was for people sharing Idea's and helping people. I don't see how I am out of line. Maybe because I am new I am missing something. I am interested in making friends and sharing Ideas. If I can help anyone with their game I am happy to. I have posted reply's and tried to help others on 2+2, I was under the impression that was exactly what I was doing here. There are a ton of great players on here that I would like to learn from and I am happy to help those who can gain something from my knowledge/perspective.
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06-01-2010, 01:25 PM
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Heads Up SNG Forum
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: ColoradoRy
Posts: 15,176
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Re: superturbo HUsngs on ftp
I think what Spamzor is trying to say is that you seem to be asking a lot of questions that aren't really relevant to your success.
It isn't out of the ordinary, I did it awhile back, many others did too, but after a certain point you realize that a lot of your focus needs to be on playing and thinking about in game strategy rather than results, poker programs, br strategies and the amount of tables you're playing.
That's no diss to you, but that's how I read his comments. Take what you can out of them.
But for example, if there's a consensus that 1-3% (maybe 4-5%) ROIs are max attainable, what does it matter to you if a guy ran at 10% ROI for 500 games? These are things that are no worry to you and provide you no real value. Again, it's not to be rude to you, just to shape what appears to be good effort and motivation to improve your game into a more efficient and direct line of questioning and analysis.
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