The Superturbos (aka "sejjeturbos") Discussion Thread

[ChicagoRy]

Maybe the same reason Stars didn't come up with hypers for something like 2 years after FTP came out with them, didn't add a rematch button for similar time.

HUSNGs aren't #1 on everybody's priority list, nor are the people at these rooms HUSNG players (and even if they are, one or two people familiar with a game isn't automatically going to lead to the best structures or prioritized decisions). You can say the same about a lot of things too (why is the rake so high on some non Stars major sites? Oh, they're just glorified casinos that don't care about scaling up a large community of poker players!).

Stars has done the best, I'd give them a B+. Nobody else even approaches a B.

[hrlohe]

Im using HEM 1. Is it somehow possible to see hands-chips won graph +nonshowdown winning and showdown winnings. I see only $-tourney graph. i see other HT players do post always hands played-chips won graph, would like to do the same

[_dave_]

nah it's a PT thing, although you could make such graphs for free while PT4 is in beta right now.

You can get similar stats from the reports section of hem1 (chips won/lost, evbb/100, showdown/non-sd etc) - but it can't make the graphs.

I really hate this artificial distinction between cash/tourney hands in the current trackers, makes little sense imo.

[hrlohe]

Yep with this reports section i'm familiar, was hoping to see the graph also they should do an update or smth, should not be too hard, imo its more informative than $/tourney graph

[Crap$hoot]

first hand vs an unknown, we flat 87s and the flop comes T92r.

do we check shove?

[ohly]

do we have BFD?

i have a hem question: i have bb-vpip stat in my hud, but it also includes his vpip when i limp, i don't want that. is there a stat that only measures villains vpip when i raise preflop?

[Brocky]

Originally Posted by ohly

do we have BFD?

i have a hem question: i have bb-vpip stat in my hud, but it also includes his vpip when i limp, i don't want that. is there a stat that only measures villains vpip when i raise preflop?

I assume you're Ohly on Stars? If so, do you want to chop when we sit each other? (Paxtonyido).. I can clearly see our games turning into a leveling war.

[Crap$hoot]

Originally Posted by ohly

do we have BFD?

well, we had in a bfd in this case but does it change our decision that much EQ wise?

[none888]

Originally Posted by ohly

do we have BFD?

i have a hem question: i have bb-vpip stat in my hud, but it also includes his vpip when i limp, i don't want that. is there a stat that only measures villains vpip when i raise preflop?

Taking quick look in google it should be BB call open or BB call vs steal.

[ohly]

Originally Posted by Brocky

I assume you're Ohly on Stars? If so, do you want to chop when we sit each other? (Paxtonyido).. I can clearly see our games turning into a leveling war.

haha, had the same impression after just the two games we played
i don't mind either way, i see it as good practice once in a while, but if we clash frequently i am fine with chopping.

@ crapshoot: well, it might be close between flatting and raising, and those 2-3 percent are more relevant when we raise imo. but other factors are more important, even completely readless you should have some indicators on wether or not they are a reg or not (hide from search feature? if not, how many tables? sharkscope?)

@none: but that is only when they flat, i want overall vpip when i raise. i think i found it though, there is a stat that is called BB vpip with 1 limper, not sure it works though, i had some problems with those position specific stats in HU. will try later. thanks for your help

[Crap$hoot]

To be honest, i stopped using sharkscope because I weighed my decision more on their ss results then on actual reads i had one someone. Also noticed it can be much harder sometimes to beat a -5% fish then a regish player. So ss results confuse me more then they help me lol

Not sure if he was multi tabling or not but he minraised his first button fwiw.

[Brocky]

Originally Posted by ohly

haha, had the same impression after just the two games we played
i don't mind either way, i see it as good practice once in a while, but if we clash frequently i am fine with chopping.

Well I can't chat in game, so i'll leave it up to you as i'm happy to play or chop. Just say 'chop' before the game if you want.

[DarkSide11]

Originally Posted by ohly

i have a hem question: i have bb-vpip stat in my hud, but it also includes his vpip when i limp, i don't want that. is there a stat that only measures villains vpip when i raise preflop?

Yes I use combination of 2. BB Call Open and BB 3bet.

[thia]

Originally Posted by DarkSide11

Yes I use combination of 2. BB Call Open and BB 3bet.

me too... looks like the best option...

[flipya4dinna]

I use a line with vpip / call / 3bet, dont really need the vpip but every little helps.