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Old 06-16-2011, 06:00 AM   #1
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Thumbs up PlauZee angleshooting and stealing $14,000 from me

Alright, hello everyone. I publish the following because I want to show everyone what kind of person the well known reg "PlauZee" from germany is. I offered him a possibility to clarify the case in skype but he didn't reply at all, even after me waiting 12 hours.

Yesterday I was opensitting the 5ks, 2ks and 1ks. I was playing one table 1k non turb against alloman when I suddenly disconnected. Having a USB stick for those circumstances I wasn't too excited but it turned out it wasn't worth the money, meaning: I had no internet for about 45 minutes.

Shortly after disconnecting PlauZee, who NEVER EVER plays me, instantly joined me on 5ks/2ks. He blinded me down as fast as he could and took $14,000 from me.

tablechat:
Siervos: are you seriously stealing plauzee?
wuffle84: yes he does
Siervos: i cant imagine that
PlauZee: yep. we have some history on that, so thats fine imo
alloman: yeah
Siervos: so who is taking the last 5k
Siervos: alloman
Siervos: its yours
alloman: you owne plauzee
alloman: like railing my game
alloman: its worth it
alloman: :P
[Plauzee now sitting me in another 5k]
alloman: :P
alloman: for this

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First I want to admit: OF COURSE it isn't his mistake that I disconnected. But taking advantage of this fact in such a way, is just a sickening and discusting behavior. It just dissapoints me and makes me angry that a person who has a charity organisation "ALL IN 4 KIDS" and knows many regs, makes such a move on another reg. It just leaks any sort of moral or ethics (and YES, there ARE moral standards, even in poker).
Just for example, Fishenzon disconnected a while ago aswell, I instantly sat him in all lobbies and afterwards send the money back to him, even paying my own rake. And I didn't feel like "whoa im so gentle" it is just something you do because when this happens to yourself, you would be GLAD if someone else saved you from losing several thousands of dollars.

PlauZee did this on purpose and even after sleeping over it, he still insists on keeping the money.

Thanks a lot Chris, you really are generous person.

Oh, a little sidenote: PlauZee said in the chat above we have a "history". Well, our history is basically, that he flamed me since i was playing 200s, telling me that I am a ****ing fish and should stick to the 100s. Ironically he dropped 30k (at peak) vs me and stopped sitting me. CONGRATULATIONS CHRIS, YOU ARE UP NOW VS ME
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Old 06-16-2011, 06:01 AM   #2
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Re: PlauZee angleshooting and stealing $14,000 from me

First impressions: hard to expect exemplary behavior if you guys have bad blood between eachother. TBH, if somebody I really dislike discs and is open sitting 5ks, I don't know if I could resist all that free money.

*awaits PlauZee's side of the story*

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Old 06-16-2011, 06:06 AM   #3
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Re: PlauZee angleshooting and stealing $14,000 from me

whats your sn?
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Old 06-16-2011, 06:08 AM   #4
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Re: PlauZee angleshooting and stealing $14,000 from me

Same sn like here

this is such a tilting story
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Old 06-16-2011, 06:13 AM   #5
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Re: PlauZee angleshooting and stealing $14,000 from me

This kind of behavior between regs is just terrible imo. I am 100% sure bjoerni would have sent back to Plauzee and it's not like they're sworn enemies or anything. As far as I know they have played a few times and Plauzee even comments on bjoerni's blog often, and I believe it's generally friendly. This kind of behavior is unforgivable imo by someone like Plauzee.

I see very few cases where it is ok for a reg to do this to another well knwon reg and they would be very extreme cases where there is really hatred between the players which wasn't the case here.
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Old 06-16-2011, 06:15 AM   #6
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(as a side note, this is a really strong argument for implementing a feature that automatically unregisters you from all SNG's if you disconnect. It's pure common sense, how this is not in the software yet is beyond me.)
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Old 06-16-2011, 06:27 AM   #7
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(as a side note, this is a really strong argument for implementing a feature that automatically unregisters you from all SNG's if you disconnect. It's pure common sense, how this is not in the software yet is beyond me.)
This + a billion
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Old 06-16-2011, 06:31 AM   #8
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Shortly after disconnecting PlauZee, who NEVER EVER plays me, instantly joined me on 5ks/2ks. He blinded me down as fast as he could and took $14,000 from me.
We played some hours before as well. And I took not 14k, but 12k. The difference is not big, just the fact that I was not the only reg who blinded you down. The other 2k was sat by another reg.
And I sold % for all matches we played yesterday as I often did in history when playing you.


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First I want to admit: OF COURSE it isn't his mistake that I disconnected. But taking advantage of this fact in such a way, is just a sickening and discusting behavior. It just dissapoints me and makes me angry that a person who has a charity organisation "ALL IN 4 KIDS" and knows many regs, makes such a move on another reg. It just leaks any sort of moral or ethics (and YES, there ARE moral standards, even in poker).
Just for example, Fishenzon disconnected a while ago aswell, I instantly sat him in all lobbies and afterwards send the money back to him, even paying my own rake. And I didn't feel like "whoa im so gentle" it is just something you do because when this happens to yourself, you would be GLAD if someone else saved you from losing several thousands of dollars.
I never did that to any other reg. If you only point out your part of the history we had before, it's fine. But be aware I sat other disconnected regs as well just to send them the money back afterwards.

I HAVE no charity, I just support them and I'm glad to do so.


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Oh, a little sidenote: PlauZee said in the chat above we have a "history". Well, our history is basically, that he flamed me since i was playing 200s, telling me that I am a ****ing fish and should stick to the 100s. Ironically he dropped 30k (at peak) vs me and stopped sitting me. CONGRATULATIONS CHRIS, YOU ARE UP NOW VS ME
Again, just one part of the story. In your German blog you recently wrote that you leave 5ks when your girlfriend is asking you to do. I don't want to get into that much, but if you say so, it seems ok to you getting blinded down.
I never stopped sitting you. We played some 5ks recently. And I was up vs you before that match already. Check your sharkscope - and again, be aware I didn't blind you down for 14k but 12k.

I know it's not very kind of me. But it's pretty standard and common to steal blinds if people don't know well each other or don't have any agreement.
This is the only post I send in this thread, I'm not interested in things getting too personal.

gl guys

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Old 06-16-2011, 06:32 AM   #9
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Re: PlauZee angleshooting and stealing $14,000 from me

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(as a side note, this is a really strong argument for implementing a feature that automatically unregisters you from all SNG's if you disconnect. It's pure common sense, how this is not in the software yet is beyond me.)
Agreed it's somewhat amazing nothing is in place for this...
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Old 06-16-2011, 06:40 AM   #10
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Re: PlauZee angleshooting and stealing $14,000 from me

Your arguments are bad imo

Concerning the best one: "I know it's not very kind of me. But it's pretty standard and common to steal blinds if people don't know well each other or don't have any agreement."

I'd be surprised if that's what most high stakes regs think when another high stakes player is concerned with who they have history. Would you agree to refund if this practise turned out to be not common or standard?
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Old 06-16-2011, 06:44 AM   #11
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Re: PlauZee angleshooting and stealing $14,000 from me

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(as a side note, this is a really strong argument for implementing a feature that automatically unregisters you from all SNG's if you disconnect. It's pure common sense, how this is not in the software yet is beyond me.)

i think the reason for this, is that often for example me, i disconnect for 1 second or something and it immediately comes up, like every 30 mins or w.e it somehow "refreshes" the inet connection that makes me disco for a milli second and its just like tables lagg and everything continues as usual after that

with having this function it would be a bitchhhh to re-reg every 30 mins to all games

BUT I DO AGREE and dont htink it is a bad idea t all
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Old 06-16-2011, 06:46 AM   #12
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Re: PlauZee angleshooting and stealing $14,000 from me

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We played some hours before as well. And I took not 14k, but 12k. The difference is not big, just the fact that I was not the only reg who blinded you down. The other 2k was sat by another reg.
And I sold % for all matches we played yesterday as I often did in history when playing you.

okay, thats true. alloman also sat me in a 2k. the other thing: oh WOW, u so u sold some %? cool, then i should obviously rename the topic into "plauzee stole 33%, XXX 20%, XXX 31%, .... It doesnt matter at all, you have been the one who took the money from me



I never did that to any other reg. If you only point out your part of the history we had before, it's fine. But be aware I sat other disconnected regs as well just to send them the money back afterwards.

cool. i def. feel better now.

I HAVE no charity, I just support them and I'm glad to do so.

that, aswell, changes a lot


Again, just one part of the story. In your German blog you recently wrote that you leave 5ks when your girlfriend is asking you to do. I don't want to get into that much, but if you say so, it seems ok to you getting blinded down.
But I never stopped sitting you. We played some 5ks recently. And I was up vs you before that match already. Check your sharkscope - and again, be aware I didn't blind you down for 14k but 12k.

its something different if I decide on my own to leave a game or someone else takes the money KNOWING i didnt chose that option. and are you kidding me, I was sitting like 10 hours in the 5k/2k/1k lobbies while uve been playing on the limits below. dont tell me you are still playing me or something. You saw that i disconnected and joined me. and my sharkscope says I am down 7,xk vs you. if my mathskills are still decent enough I'd assume I was up before that.

I know it's not very kind of me. But it's pretty standard and common to steal blinds if people don't know well each other or don't have any agreement.
This is the only post I send in this thread, I'm not interested in things getting too personal.

at least you know it. and it is NOT pretty standard. you know that on your own because nearly every reg I have talked about it was shocked by your behavior. and some of the even told you. so dont act like its a "common thing"

gl guys
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Old 06-16-2011, 06:48 AM   #13
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Re: PlauZee angleshooting and stealing $14,000 from me

yeah i disconnect on average 5 times per game, only for few seconds tho so never lose any blinds.
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Old 06-16-2011, 06:56 AM   #14
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Re: PlauZee angleshooting and stealing $14,000 from me

Can people talking about an unreg when disconnected feature talk about it somewhere else please. I totally agree its necessary but this thread is about plauzee being a douche or about high stakes etiquette.
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Old 06-16-2011, 06:58 AM   #15
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Re: PlauZee angleshooting and stealing $14,000 from me

whats there to say, i dont think its std eitherway and its not friendly but what ya gonna do ...
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