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12-20-2014 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DiSSaoR
As far as I know the prize pool isnt being showed in the tourney summaries. You can only see how much you won of each then, but not how much you played?
PokerStars Tournament #1083061750, No Limit Hold'em
Buy-In: $28.50/$1.50 USD
3 players
Total Prize Pool: $60.00 USD
Tournament started 2014/12/20 4:59:24 CET [2014/12/19 22:59:24 ET]

1: xxx, $60.00 (100%)
2: yyy ,
3: zzz ,

You finished in 2nd place (eliminated at hand #127157420613).



This is imported into your database no matter if you loose or win
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12-20-2014 , 06:31 PM
And for HM2 ?
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12-22-2014 , 03:04 PM
If you just want to know only the number of 2x, 4x, 6x, ... etc. you have played.

1. Get all your Tournament summary files.
2. Download any file searching program that can search text in multiple files. (I used FileSearchEX: http://goffconcepts.com/products/fil...hex/index.html )
3. For example $3 Spin n go, type in search: "Total Prize Pool: $6", "Total Prize Pool: $12", "Total Prize Pool: $18", ... etc.

Maybe there is an easier solution but I'm fine with this

Last edited by Okas; 12-22-2014 at 03:31 PM.
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12-23-2014 , 05:53 PM
Am I the only one who sometimes gets random sitouts when my time-bank starts running during spin & gos? It's deff rare but it's happened multiple times, I auto sit out the second my time-bank is activated for the first time at a table.
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12-23-2014 , 06:21 PM
has the 3/10,000,000 hit yet? lol
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12-23-2014 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by WateryBoil
has the 3/10,000,000 hit yet? lol
Not that i noticed and imo traffic in 5s seemed to have normalized with other buyin levels. When first released you saw high multipliers going off all the time but now not so much anymore...

So either this will take a while longer, or.. stars just flips a switch.

Would it even be against some sort of rules/laws if stars would "manipulate" the release of the big ones manually as long as they pay out on a more or less regular basis?
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12-23-2014 , 11:51 PM
what do they stand to gain by that though, its all our money
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12-24-2014 , 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by WateryBoil
what do they stand to gain by that though, its all our money
Mostly PR imo.. The thing hitting on christmas eve makes for a better story than at 3am in the morning on a Tuesday night...

Also you have to consider, with the chances being 3/10.000.000 it might just as well take 10mil games+ until that thing hits and that might take a while (i doubt they play 10mil games in a month of these at 5s..) so it actually might be more benefical for everyone involved to be able to trigger that thing manually.
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12-24-2014 , 04:38 AM
Where do the money goes if it doesnt It?
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12-24-2014 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Thibavol
Where do the money goes if it doesnt It?
Amaya ofc
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12-24-2014 , 12:00 PM
if this was old stars i'd be 100% sure they'd let it run until one hits. With new amaya I have no idea. Do we have any idea what S&G volume looks like? There's "only" 288k seconds in December, I don't think there's popping off 10 a second? From me wild guessing that's what you would need to be reasonably sure that it hits during December.
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12-24-2014 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by callme
Mostly PR imo.. The thing hitting on christmas eve makes for a better story than at 3am in the morning on a Tuesday night...

Also you have to consider, with the chances being 3/10.000.000 it might just as well take 10mil games+ until that thing hits and that might take a while (i doubt they play 10mil games in a month of these at 5s..) so it actually might be more benefical for everyone involved to be able to trigger that thing manually.
This promo would be potentially -ev for them of they did this. Depends on how many games run.

It's the same fallacy as saying that if you win a couple games in a row you should lose one on purpose so the fish doesn't quit
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12-24-2014 , 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bbfg
if this was old stars i'd be 100% sure they'd let it run until one hits. With new amaya I have no idea. Do we have any idea what S&G volume looks like? There's "only" 288k seconds in December, I don't think there's popping off 10 a second? From me wild guessing that's what you would need to be reasonably sure that it hits during December.
Given that each game is an independent event and these games are a terrible offering I'd say letting it run until one hits is the more greedy play
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12-24-2014 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bbfg
Am I the only one who sometimes gets random sitouts when my time-bank starts running during spin & gos? It's deff rare but it's happened multiple times, I auto sit out the second my time-bank is activated for the first time at a table.
This happens to me also. For sngs. Never bothered to figure out why. Also wondered if i was special. now i know.
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12-25-2014 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by djle2
This happens to me also. For sngs. Never bothered to figure out why. Also wondered if i was special. now i know.
Never happend to me so far - what kind of connection are you guys on (from where you grind?) and is this happening when you join a new game or just randomly during game play?
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12-25-2014 , 02:06 PM
This thing is going off today.. I can feel it *logs in*
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12-25-2014 , 02:17 PM
Might have already been mentioned, havent been keeping an eye on this thread, so apologies in advance.

Does anyone else feel like they get way more multipliers if they 1 or 2 table these? I was 5 tabling there for a while and would get maybe 1 in 5 tables that were more than the minimum, but when I 2 table i get a better multiplier on at least one table nearly every time.
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12-25-2014 , 02:49 PM
Very riggy talk.

If it was ever proven that multipliers were manipulated it would be one of the largest stories of the year and would cost millions in brand image.

Makes no sense to manipulate the multipliers anyways. It's a multi billion dollar business, and manipulating multipliers would result in maybe a few million more in rake per year if done heavily? Incentive isn't really setup for manipulation here.
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12-25-2014 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoRy
Very riggy talk.

If it was ever proven that multipliers were manipulated it would be one of the largest stories of the year and would cost millions in brand image.

Makes no sense to manipulate the multipliers anyways. It's a multi billion dollar business, and manipulating multipliers would result in maybe a few million more in rake per year if done heavily? Incentive isn't really setup for manipulation here.
I was thinking the exact same thing..
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12-25-2014 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoRy
Very riggy talk.

If it was ever proven that multipliers were manipulated it would be one of the largest stories of the year and would cost millions in brand image.

Makes no sense to manipulate the multipliers anyways. It's a multi billion dollar business, and manipulating multipliers would result in maybe a few million more in rake per year if done heavily? Incentive isn't really setup for manipulation here.
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12-25-2014 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoRy
Very riggy talk.
Didnt someone else mention those Twister prizepools were released in batches? So frankly speaking, i dont see much difference to it if you release them in batch or if you pull a switch or however they do it. After all they never released how they distribute that stuff, they preferred to keep it confidential as a Stars rep. commented on it. So the fact alone that they wanna keep it confidential kinda makes me think they use something that strays from pure randomness..



In the end, it doesnt matter too much imo because i doubt they would actually tilt these things in their favor to skim off even more.

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Makes no sense to manipulate the multipliers anyways. It's a multi billion dollar business, and manipulating multipliers would result in
Where did i hear that before...
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12-25-2014 , 04:00 PM
Why is it saying in the top prizes for the day that 3 people shared a prize of 108,000 I thought it was 90k prize pool for the $30s and 1.2 milllion for the $5.

Am I missing something
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12-25-2014 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by callme
After all they never released how they distribute that stuff, they preferred to keep it confidential as a Stars rep. commented on it.
I don't remember this. Do you happen to have a link?

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Why is it saying in the top prizes for the day that 3 people shared a prize of 108,000 I thought it was 90k prize pool for the $30s and 1.2 milllion for the $5.

Am I missing something
90k for 1st and 9k each for 2nd and 3rd.
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12-25-2014 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
I don't remember this. Do you happen to have a link?
I think its either in here or in NVG but i havent bookmarked it so cant find it quickly but it went something like this:

Someone asked for how we can trust them that they distribute the prizepools in a proper manner and he basically said, we have to take Stars word/reputation for it and then later gave some figures how much they run above and below EV for that point in time. And the reason they didnt want to share much about that was to keep it hidden from other competitors.

Overall it really doesnt make much sense why they wouldnt just distribute by complete randomness - after all they have enough traffic on these and dont have to fear to get stuck. But then again, if they would do that, it wouldnt be idiotic not to just say so and remove most doubts.
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12-25-2014 , 09:16 PM
I thought earlier in this thread they mentioned that it was distributed in like 20k batches early on, but now is completely random (and that they've ran slightly good or bad in distributions).

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So the fact alone that they wanna keep it confidential kinda makes me think they use something that strays from pure randomness..
There's a huge difference between random blocks and manipulation though.

You could distribute them randomly over a 10k or 40k game batch and it's perfectly fair and no reason to talk riggy.

If you're giving more prizes to people that play less tables or win less often, now it's something entirely different.

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Where did i hear that before.
I don't know? The biggest company that has clearly cheated users by manipulating games/cards was UB/AP, but they were nowhere near a billion dollar company. Also, it was huge news and a massive scandal.

All I'm saying is the financial incentive to manipulate spin and go multipliers in a way that favors weaker players is not very high compared to the amount of money they would lose due to their brand taking a huge hit.

It doesn't mean it's impossible to ever happen or anything, I just mean that there's no reason to believe that it's happening any more than someone controlling the cards that come out in games for the last 10-20 years on the site.
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