I can't help but feel that all arguments here against more lobbies are very poor.
I don't want to necessarily convince people to change their viewpoint although i am inclined to lean towards the idea that more lobbies would be better for everyone.
I see weakish regs opensit 200/300s daily who get offended when u sit them, so this lobby system being better for the games, and keeping the weak regs out, i doubt it. Maybe at 1Ks its true tho, because you have certain people so motivated to protect there lobbies but at other stakes, the real bum hunters imo, are not the weak regs open sitting and hoping to not get sat by a better player, it are the good regs allowing the weak regs to opensit!
solely because most good regs with solid results don't want the variance (if they actively chased it they wouldn't have these solid graphs ducy?). So in that sense the real bum hunters are actually the better regs right now who stay clear and don't protect the lobby.
So how is this system preventing bum hunting? when its obviously super rewarding if you don't defend the lobby, and don't take the variance and let someone else do your dirty work?
Which is fine and up to them of course, but i don't think they should act as if they don't want weak ish regs to get a lobby by giving multiple lobbies.
also the people talking about hourly, you say more lobbies, less hourly, i wonder how is that?
Imagine ur a 200$ reg at superturbos, u wake up, register 100$ st, 200$ and 300$ lobbie and u go make ur coffee or w.e
in 5 minutes u will have at least 1 game up and if u re-reg the lobby u got action at, I'm SURE it would be fairly easy to get 3 games running the majority of the time (assuming u rematch only the fish) while it might be true to start off your session it would be somewhat slow, once u have some tables up and theres an open lobby u can instantly reg at as soon as u get a table of that stake up, it will be so easy to put in big volume.
I am 100% convinced that u lose more hourly right now, being the solid reg you probably are, who waits until he can snatch up a lobby and if a weakfish reg is quicker then him, he waits another 5 minutes and who probably plays anywhere between 15-50% of games vs other regs lifetime because of the misclick regs. Then you would if u were "waiting" while having a different table up.
Honestly, its impossible to measure or even estimate what the numbers and difference are exactly. But try and think of these factors
A main point brought to everyones attention (i hope at least) is the point ShaneO19 made:
- Grinding the lobby has become more important then being good at poker.
This is so true its absurd. No one even questioned this statement.
now imagine the sad truth between it, when u reg at same time with another reg, u most likely lose rake. Oh yeah your so much better blah blah u can beat rake vs anyone, I'm sure buddy
but even if u are beating the rake an overall 0% roi will most likely reduce ur overall win rate AND your hourly as well as and it will increase your variance as well.
a second factor to consider given this point is, u have 1 table up, and u spend perhaps 70% of your attention playing the 1 table, and 30% monitoring the lobby trying to register asap into another lobby as soon as its empty. Im sure we've all had it, we timed out on a hand in a game while we were trying to be the quickest regger in the next lobby to get up 2 tables.
In other words ur hourly decreases again. and your variance increases again.
I can state many more examples why i think more lobbies could be good for everyone except lets say Skaiwalkurrr and i have no clue why i see some people here who i think are fairly intelligent argue otherwise, because their arguments don't make sense.
I hope we get into a consensus because to be honest I'm fairly sure ill play on ftp only if stars lobby stays like this, and ftp comes back. Despite the big distrust i feel towards em.
I like especially how some people argue, there are way more regs now so we need LESS lobbies. Haha ;D
I'm fairly sure that the main reason why people argue for 2 lobbies only, is either being misinformed, haven't given it enough tought, or wanting to look like a bad ass on the forums.