**Official PokerStars Heads Up SNG Improvement Thread**

[bighusla]

Originally Posted by Freakg

more promotions / leaderboards

+1mirrion

Originally Posted by ShaneO19

I really do not understand this logic so if someone could please explain it to me I would happily change my opinion. If there are 20 regs all wanting to play at the same time (I think thats way overestimating it) then how exactly does having only 2 sit at once decrease overall wait times? If there are 20 regs all wanting to sit and wait then there are 20 regs wanting to sit and wait whether there is 1 lobby or infinite lobbies. Of course the games get filled faster once you are actually in the lobby but that does not factor the time spent staring at the lobby when you have 0% chance of playing. I guess if you are especially fast at registering or have a program to take advantage of the system (which is ridiculous) then overall wait times are probably shorter but there will always be others on the other side of that. FWIW I only get to play 10-12 days a month now and have been mostly playing on other sites so it isn't even that big of a concern to me personally.

Its because the more lobbies there are the less likely it is that a recreational player will sit your specific lobby. Also it looks very predatory to have like 5 lobbies on each level filled with 5 regs waiting for a recreational player to sit.

[coffeeyay]

I think chop button is predatory and against the spirit of the game. Instead make it more clear that Stars does not allow deals and will not enforce them. I think having regs play it out vs one another is really good for the game.

I do think that there should be an "add another table" button. Many recreational players enjoy multi tabling and rematching so I don't think it would be predatory and could enhance the game for some of these players. The one caveat is that it should be done double blind to avoid harassment (ie its a check box button that each player has, but other player doesn't know whether their opponent has hit it or not, they both have to have it checked for the new table to spawn). This seems win win since it would allow regs an easier time to play multiple tables against each other, allow recreational players to multi-table friends and specific players without trying to wait for an open table (and getting snap sat by a reg), all the while generating more rake/hr for Stars.

Lastly I would really like to see a leaderboard. I think it would be even more beneficial than lowering rake because it encourages more recreational players to play more games--I'm sure there could be a way to make it even encourage reg vs reg games in order to increase your leaderboard status. People go crazy over ranking systems and HU is the perfect game to have rankings. I think that it would more than pay for itself with the extra rake generated from the extra games played and the influx of players wanting to be number 1 at their stake.

[Cog Dissonance]

I never heard of any complaints about the chop button on FTP and I hope Stars introduce it.

Half the threads that make poker look shady are "X said he would chop and ripped me off".

It's just bad publicity for poker and the site.

Saying no chops is not the solution, once the rake is paid, the money belongs to the players, and they should be able to chop their own money if it suits them.

[damanrico]

Good to see that PokerStars is joining the discussion. I'll also add some of my thoughts, of which some are a bit general:

- You (Steve) said PokerStars shortened the waiting time before the game starts, this is true and that's great. But the delay after the first hand is still there. Meaning that the first hand gets dealt and when the hands ends there's a 5 second delay before the 2nd hand gets dealt, after the 2nd hand the cards to get dealt at the usual speed.

- Adding to my previous point: when the blinds go up there's also a delay. Back in the days on Full Tilt Poker the announcement of the blinds going up would not delay the game, which makes for a much more smooth gameflow experience. On PokerStars the dealing of the next hand gets delayed by 3-4 seconds.

- Recently I've noticed, usually during peak hours, that the lobby system is very laggy. New lobbies show up late, while full lobbies can take a few seconds to disappear. This can make it tough to join a new lobby (especially on the lower limits where lobbies fill up quick). Because of the delay and also the lag of seeing if someone is already sitting a lobby, it's a little tough to get an empty lobby instead of joining another regular which you'd like to dodge.

- An option to chop / deal.

- A way to add a color note to someone sitting a lobby. So the option to rightclick on his name and add the color note.

Thanks for taking our suggestions in concern.

[Crap$hoot]

1) add another table option
2) leaderbord
3) chop/deal option

[ohly]

i keep complaining and it was probably already mentioned here, although i didn't find it yet:
unless you want to widen your player pool to non-human beings, there is absolutely no reason to have the rematch window be open 30 seconds, it only serves for slowroll-declining.

also i am pretty sure that 2 lobbies favour reg on reg action far more than 5 lobbies would and i completely agree with bighusla that pokerstars should adjust the rake in a way that at higher stakes worse regs can be pushed out of the lobby by the better ones.

[DarkSide11]

Originally Posted by ohly

also i am pretty sure that 2 lobbies favour reg on reg action far more than 5 lobbies would

Why have regs fight over tables?

[Drooler]

1- HUSNG Leaderboard

2-HUSNG Promotions and Advertisements

3- Slightly Lower Rake For HU Hypers

[BadMoFu]

Please add an option to offer your opponent to play more tables.

Right now, if youre playing vs someone on 1 table and you agree (in chat) to play 1 more, you have to go trough the entire lobby cat-and-mouse BS, trying to reg at the same time to the same game at the very moment the lobby becomes open, and all this while playing other games. Then almost every time you get unwanted matches before you finally get it right.

I would assume that on stakes lower then 60's there is simply no way to be fast enough to join a game together without having unwanted matches.

If the was a simple way to offer to play another table, say, by right-clicking OP's name and choosing such an option (and then he sees this "offer to start another table" as a pop up or something along those lines, where he can agree or decline, if he agrees - another table starts automatically), it would make things a ton faster. And there will be in general more games played by the same 2 opponents on average with such an option - generating more rake.

[bighusla]

Originally Posted by DarkSide11

Why have regs fight over tables?

Because we need to keep the lobbies moving having like 10 regs waiting in line isn't good for business, when the lobbies are stagnant we all play less games per hr and Pokerstars makes less money from rake. I hope Pokerstars begins to encourage more reg on reg play by lowering the rake a bit and make it possible for regs to actually sit one another and beat the rake.

[Yasawa]

leaderboard ... need motivation

[Nyul86]

Originally Posted by coffeeyay

I think chop button is predatory and against the spirit of the game. Instead make it more clear that Stars does not allow deals and will not enforce them.

+11111

Originally Posted by ohly

unless you want to widen your player pool to non-human beings, there is absolutely no reason to have the rematch window be open 30 seconds, it only serves for slowroll-declining.

Yes, it shouldn't be more than 10 seconds. It's very annoying, especially when one wants to finish making a note.

[kaija7]

First of all i think that we need promotions and leaderboards. That will atract more recreational players, more games , more rake for stars so this is win win situation.
I don't see a point in making more lobbies, if now is a lobby open a reg will sit in it , if there are 5 lobbies 5 regs will sit on them and this is not good for the game.
I believe that a chop button is ok, and Cog made a valid point , no more threads like: ,, x said we would chop and never send''.
Add another table is, once again, a win win situation for both players and stars, more games , more rake.
I personally think that leaderboards and add another table are > then decrease rake.

[-Gio-]

I was wondering... can we request more HUMTT games by this? Or HUSNG with more than 32 players but it will take a lot of time to get full because they are only at SNG lobby I think.

I want this because there is only ONE $22 tournament a day for players in different time zoens. Other games are regular $10,50 Knockout which is with cappet with only 256 people. There are 3 winner takes all, with $2/$5/$11 which is ok IMO. There is one $215 a day which obv is expensive because in this plays about 12 players every day. And some kind of ~$100ish but they are not ok for Europeans because they are too early.

So you can see the difference between $22 and $215! There is no HUMTT with 30-50-75 at all and normal starting time like 18:00/19:00 GMT. The structure in $22 turbo is ok for humtt.

My request is for only one or two more HUMTTs a day with structure like $22 turbo or a little slower and buy-in with 22-50$ for example. Maybe the best option will be to lower the BI for the daily $215 at around 17:15 CET and add one more later.

Thanks for reading this.

[DarkSide11]

Originally Posted by bighusla

Because we need to keep the lobbies moving having like 10 regs waiting in line isn't good for business, when the lobbies are stagnant we all play less games per hr and Pokerstars makes less money from rake. I hope Pokerstars begins to encourage more reg on reg play by lowering the rake a bit and make it possible for regs to actually sit one another and beat the rake.

So you support this system because it is bad for players and good for pokerstars profitability?

What is they do not lower rake like you recommend, would you still support it?