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Old 05-08-2011, 03:40 PM   #1
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min 3bet preflop and rivering 2pair

No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (2 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB (t1510)
Hero (SB) (t1490)

Hero's M: 49.67

Preflop: Hero is SB with J, 8
Hero bets t30, BB raises t60, Hero calls t40

Flop: (t160) K, J, 4 (2 players)
BB bets t60, Hero calls t60

Turn: (t280) 9 (2 players)
BB bets t140, Hero calls t140

River: (t560) 8 (2 players)
BB bets t260, Hero calls t260

Total pot: t1080

hows the line? can i raise river?
btw, no reads
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Old 05-08-2011, 03:49 PM   #2
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Re: min 3bet preflop and rivering 2pair

snapraise river, this is never a better hand.
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Old 05-08-2011, 07:25 PM   #3
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Re: min 3bet preflop and rivering 2pair

Pretty sick read ^^
Can you elaborate alittle more why this is never better, what do you expect calls that is worse often?
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Old 05-08-2011, 07:41 PM   #4
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Re: min 3bet preflop and rivering 2pair

I'm definitely raising the river and possibly jamming but with no reads i think 660 is fine, hands like AK,KQ can still call the river and maybe an oddly play AA is there too. Bet sizing looks pretty weak like TP trying to get value but not bloat the pot too much either. For some tilt inducing value, min-raise. He has 960 left after making that river bet so I think it's likely he might fold to a big raise such as 800.
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Old 05-08-2011, 07:51 PM   #5
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Re: min 3bet preflop and rivering 2pair

Minraise usually means a fish, fish will call AA/AK/KQ here often enough, so I'm shoving although it's pretty close (definitely not raising here vs a good player and like raising a lot better at lower stakes).

Fold the turn readless.

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Old 05-08-2011, 08:01 PM   #6
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Re: min 3bet preflop and rivering 2pair

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Minraise usually means a fish, fish will call AA/AK/KQ here often enough, so I'm shoving although it's pretty close (definitely not raising here vs a good player and like raising a lot better at lower stakes).

Fold the turn readless.
expand on why we fold turn to a half pot bet when we pick up a flush draw.
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Old 05-08-2011, 08:02 PM   #7
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Re: min 3bet preflop and rivering 2pair

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Minraise usually means a fish, fish will call AA/AK/KQ here often enough, so I'm shoving although it's pretty close (definitely not raising here vs a good player and like raising a lot better at lower stakes).

Fold the turn readless.
Did you notice flush draw on turn? folding turn when we pick up a flush draw to go along with 2nd pair on the turn to a half-pot bet?
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Old 05-08-2011, 08:11 PM   #8
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Re: min 3bet preflop and rivering 2pair

Woah, I'm going blind, snap-call the turn obv

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Old 05-09-2011, 05:24 AM   #9
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Re: min 3bet preflop and rivering 2pair

raise on the river ~600
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:04 AM   #10
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Re: min 3bet preflop and rivering 2pair

def raise river here, his bet sizing the entire way looks fairly weak and id be fairly confident you'd be ahead most of the time, not too sure on what size tho, a minraise could cause him to spazz out and shove, in which case id snap call, and as someone above said he could fold to a larger bet
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Old 05-09-2011, 02:51 PM   #11
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Re: min 3bet preflop and rivering 2pair

Raise it up too ~600, this looks a lot like Kx that he will have problems folding to a raise.

Btw he didn't min 3bet!
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