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Old 07-29-2012, 04:08 PM   #91
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Re: Maxi Stochyk Duarte "Maxostoch" "Beats4You" stole $5,700 from me

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ok im no lawyer or anything but it seems to me that you dont have any legal bounderies to pursuit any legal action vs maxi

he was underage at the time so he obv used MB and PS account with some other persons info.

He is of age now so he created MB and PS on his real name which is not in any way connected to the scam he pulled off.
He also created new skype and new 2p2 acc which cant be linked to his ex-accounts.

Therefore, unless you people find some connections between his old/new accounts, i dont think there is much you can do legally

however...he is still made of bones, blood and flesh
Thats true,but his old PS accounts could be in his parents names,in that case they are responsable of the scam. Did anyone report to PS btw?
Last Maxi post needs no comment,dont focus in that ****.
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Old 07-29-2012, 04:11 PM   #92
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Re: Maxi Stochyk Duarte "Maxostoch" "Beats4You" stole $5,700 from me

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Thats true,but his old PS accounts could be in his parents names,in that case they are responsable of the scam. Did anyone report to PS btw?
Last Maxi post needs no comment,dont focus in that ****.
Why not mr Roberto?

We never saw the MB transfer...its just a random X 370post guy telling that i scammed him 6k without any realiable proof.

Not funny.
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Old 07-29-2012, 04:14 PM   #93
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Re: Maxi Stochyk Duarte "Maxostoch" "Beats4You" stole $5,700 from me

security@pokerstars.com
security@moneybookers.com

Misuse and fraud will be prosecuted! Please note that under UK anti-money laundering legislation ANY kind of payment fraud is considered potential money laundering. We are legally obliged to report any fraud to The Serious Organised Crime Agency.
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Old 07-29-2012, 04:15 PM   #94
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Re: Maxi Stochyk Duarte "Maxostoch" "Beats4You" stole $5,700 from me

Mr Ajay should start saying who he shipped the money to plus other details that he never mentioned.
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Old 07-29-2012, 04:17 PM   #95
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Re: Maxi Stochyk Duarte "Maxostoch" "Beats4You" stole $5,700 from me

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ok im no lawyer or anything but it seems to me that you dont have any legal bounderies to pursuit any legal action vs maxi

he was underage at the time so he obv used MB and PS account with some other persons info.

He is of age now so he created MB and PS on his real name which is not in any way connected to the scam he pulled off.
He also created new skype and new 2p2 acc which cant be linked to his ex-accounts.

Therefore, unless you people find some connections between his old/new accounts, i dont think there is much you can do legally

however...he is still made of bones, blood and flesh
you can start by telling authorities he played online poker underaged
also links are quite easy to find
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Old 07-29-2012, 04:29 PM   #96
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Re: Maxi Stochyk Duarte "Maxostoch" "Beats4You" stole $5,700 from me

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you can start by telling authorities he played online poker underaged
also links are quite easy to find

how can you prove he played underaged, ps acc is not on his name...

even if you prove it somehow, that hurts only pokerstars, not maxi

(ie. if a boy walks into a casino and plays blackjack, whos fault is it, and who will be blamed/fined?)

@OP - if u already got scammed for 6k, imo 300$ more is nothing, and for that money you can pay someone to mess him up pretty good

also, creating a website with his info and what he did should be done, make seo adjustmets so he pops out first on the google search page
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Old 07-29-2012, 04:33 PM   #97
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Re: Maxi Stochyk Duarte "Maxostoch" "Beats4You" stole $5,700 from me

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ok im no lawyer or anything but it seems to me that you dont have any legal bounderies to pursuit any legal action vs maxi

he was underage at the time so he obv used MB and PS account with some other persons info.

He is of age now so he created MB and PS on his real name which is not in any way connected to the scam he pulled off.
He also created new skype and new 2p2 acc which cant be linked to his ex-accounts.

Therefore, unless you people find some connections between his old/new accounts, i dont think there is much you can do legally
IANAL either but I can't think of why linking old accounts with new is germane to prosecution. The only thing that needs to be linked is the money to the flesh-and-blood Maxi. His age at the time of the scam would only be a factor when determining what court (and possibly the max punishment) he faces.

If it can be shown that Maxi intended to defraud and received the funds, regardless of the number of transactions it took to get there, or under what names he did it, he's on the hook.

Note that this is a criminal matter, not a civil one, so if the jurisdictional authorities want to pursue it, that's their call. This certainly is something that would be more likely to garner their attention.

Having said all that, from Maxi's perspective, paying back the $6,000 is the least of his worries, the sites that pop up when his name is Google'd is going to put waaaaay more hurt on him, and for years to come, and for amounts accumulating to far more than he stole. His "I didn't receive a MB transfer" attempt plausibile deniability is plausibile only in his own mind, considering the weight of the other evidence and anyone reading it knows it.

I think he's panicking big and his arrival into this thread demonstrates it. If he actually had contacted a lawyer the very first thing the lawyer would tell him is "STFU." The very last thing the lawyer would tell him is to defend himself in the public sphere. This development is kind of hilarious.

My guess is that Maxi has managed to keep it under wraps in regards to people that really Cannot Know in his world and he knows the clock is ticking. Fortunately, the solution he's chosen is merely digging himself deeper.

I'd normally not say such a thing, the whole Sun Tzu thing about not interrupting your enemy when they're making a mistake but the mistake is already made so gg.
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Old 07-29-2012, 04:38 PM   #98
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The true story about this is that i never got a transfer to my name i only got paid 125$ from a spanish guy called santiago and some chinese surname for this contact and he was going to do the wire to ajay.

Ajay sended the money to Santiago not to me so there is a problem here.

He agreed to give me some more mone after but never got it.
Maxi, you sent a screenshot to a friend with the balance.

You claimed you got the money by being staked.

Who's your staker?

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We are legally obliged to report any fraud to The Serious Organised Crime Agency.
I really think this is better off reported to The Slapstick Keystone Kops Crime Agency, don't you think?
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Old 07-29-2012, 04:42 PM   #99
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Re: Maxi Stochyk Duarte "Maxostoch" "Beats4You" stole $5,700 from me

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Maxi, you sent a screenshot to a friend with the balance.

You claimed you got the money by being staked.

Who's your staker?



I really think this is better off reported to The Slapstick Keystone Kops Crime Agency, don't you think?
I never got money from Ajay directly so i dont have nothing to do with this, they are not any realiable proof that can tell that im the scammer here you're just loosing your time.

Its my problem what i do with money or where i get X ammount of money you're not the Taxes guy.


About my account, my account is totally legally so i dont know whats the problem.
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Old 07-29-2012, 04:48 PM   #100
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Re: Maxi Stochyk Duarte "Maxostoch" "Beats4You" stole $5,700 from me

you're not the Taxes guy
HAHA
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Old 07-29-2012, 04:59 PM   #101
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Re: Maxi Stochyk Duarte "Maxostoch" "Beats4You" stole $5,700 from me

I have been out of town this weekend and am just catching up with the entire thread now. I have just been contacted by Maxi on Skype and can confirm that this new 2+2 account "Maxi Stochyk" is him and not a troll. I am in contact with a couple of other people and have some updates on this situation that I will post before the end of the day.
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Old 07-29-2012, 05:09 PM   #102
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Re: Maxi Stochyk Duarte "Maxostoch" "Beats4You" stole $5,700 from me

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ok im no lawyer or anything but it seems to me that you dont have any legal bounderies to pursuit any legal action vs maxi

he was underage at the time so he obv used MB and PS account with some other persons info.

He is of age now so he created MB and PS on his real name which is not in any way connected to the scam he pulled off.
He also created new skype and new 2p2 acc which cant be linked to his ex-accounts.

Therefore, unless you people find some connections between his old/new accounts, i dont think there is much you can do legally
I think that's wrong. Unless he did it in an Internet coffee, it's possible to link him. Authorities can ask his ISP to pinpoint him down.

For instance, MB could see a transaction from unknown @gmail.com with IP 12.123.1.123 and ask the ISP to provide exact location of that IP during that day. It's very common. If it's a house, they don't need to know with massive evidence who did the transfer, they'll be able to guess purely based on his behavior/goodwill/reputation/etc.

I'm not a lawyer either, I only have a small background in law + eCommerce.

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Old 07-29-2012, 05:15 PM   #103
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Re: Maxi Stochyk Duarte "Maxostoch" "Beats4You" stole $5,700 from me

I never recived any transfer from Ajay in my MB account.

So if justice traces my connection or what ever they will just find some good porn

No financial e-wallets transactions.
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Old 07-29-2012, 05:18 PM   #104
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Re: Maxi Stochyk Duarte "Maxostoch" "Beats4You" stole $5,700 from me

Boy, it doesnt have to be in the account u made after you became of age
Everything done through the internet is so easy to trace if needed... so no worries its coming for you
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Old 07-29-2012, 05:19 PM   #105
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Re: Maxi Stochyk Duarte "Maxostoch" "Beats4You" stole $5,700 from me

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Why not mr Roberto?

We never saw the MB transfer...its just a random X 370post guy telling that i scammed him 6k without any realiable proof.

Not funny.
Said the guy who made 1.1k posts in month only containing of "Wow good luck" and "add me on skype".

Its funny that you are relying on post counts.
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