Improving the HUSNG forums

[ChicagoRy]

Some good ideas in here. Rep button isn't a bad idea, I've seen it used successfully on other forums.

I think there's also another angle to this: Progression beyond the basics. It's not really easy to explain a lot of valuable stuff these days, so hours of videos, articles, one on one sessions, etc. have become higher in demand than a few years ago.

And that is a testament to the quality of this forum. I mean, we used to get a lot of shove or fold questions for example. Well, we answered them a lot, Spamzor made the excellent end game thread, we made a beginners thread to contain a lot of these questions and they kept getting answered (making it more likely that a future question would find an answer before posting, and less likely to need to post) and the end result is that a lot of basic questions can be found simply by searching.

One thing I will say, traffic isn't really down in this forum, people are still reading, and (imo) it's as valuable as a resource as it has ever been.

Further, there is no rise of any other HUSNG forums in the last year or so, so I don't think there is a void that needs to be filled. The forums have just evolved a little bit.

I'd also point out that over time new people move up, and they aren't as recognizable as guys that have been here for 5 years, but they can be very sharp players. Every year since I've been here there's always been a few guys that kind of stay under the radar, just posting good strat and eventually it's either a massive heater or enough excellent advice that brings them into the limelight, so to speak. There are guys here on the forum now that fit that description.

All that said, some great ideas here on how to improve things. Things aren't perfect, things can always be improved on, but I do think this forum is excellent, both when comparing it to other 2p2 strat forums, and also when comparing it to any HUSNG forum out there. I mean, if this forum wasn't so great, I'd develop the HUSNG.com forums. But I don't, simply because this forum is already so excellent (I focus on stuff like interviews, high stakes entertainment/strategy hands, less community forums since it would just be replication and there's plenty of other stuff where time is better spent developing).

[ChicagoRy]

There are also some tools on this forum that we haven't seen before. For example, Genher spent a lot of time creating his 3bet spreadsheet (as Insane Steve did before), and shared it with the forum.

Awesomehud2, Chadders, Polycarpus and others have built free HUDs for the forum as well.

We had none of that stuff 4 years ago on this forum.

[iL1keTurtles]

Originally Posted by tigerjack89

I was thinking the same thing just right now... something like +rep/-rep
Obv it should be a way to control the thing, but it can works.

gl

Was discussing a rep system with a friend the other day actually, like on bodybuilding.com forums. Would be very helpful to 2p2 I think.

[Brocky]

What good is a rep system when the HUSNG forum is such a clique anyway? If you see your mate posting bad advice, you're not going to negatively rep them but you'd give negative rep to someone you dislike for no reason. It's the way it works.

[ChicagoRy]

Originally Posted by Brocky

What good is a rep system when the HUSNG forum is such a clique anyway? If you see your mate posting bad advice, you're not going to negatively rep them but you'd give negative rep to someone you dislike for no reason. It's the way it works.

Are you sure you're not letting your own unique experience on 2p2 influence your opinion a bit too much here?

I've heard other people say this too, but I think it's bs. I mean, even on my site, plenty of guys dislike each other. Plenty of regs dislike each other, plenty of guys have mutual friends but dislike each other and so on.

What I don't see, are guys only getting along with familiar posters, but acting like dicks to new posters. If I did see that I would hesitate to torch some accounts either, the last thing we want is to turn new players off to this game (but I don't see it happen).

Maybe people that share this view could post some evidence/examples, because I feel like it is a very baseless negative view to have.

[Brocky]

Originally Posted by ChicagoRy

Are you sure you're not letting your own unique experience on 2p2 influence your opinion a bit too much here?

I've heard other people say this too, but I think it's bs. I mean, even on my site, plenty of guys dislike each other. Plenty of regs dislike each other, plenty of guys have mutual friends but dislike each other and so on.

What I don't see, are guys only getting along with familiar posters, but acting like dicks to new posters. If I did see that I would hesitate to torch some accounts either, the last thing we want is to turn new players off to this game (but I don't see it happen).

Maybe people that share this view could post some evidence/examples, because I feel like it is a very baseless negative view to have.

I still know of people that refuse to post hands on 2p2 because they just feel they will get abused for playing a hand badly. Look at the hand I posted ages ago. It doesn't bother me too much if people think i'm terrible because I was new at the time and I had to learn somewhere, but regs had no hesitation in ripping the **** out of the hand (this was before my recent situation as well). People are generally not too welcoming in HUSNG and if you think that's just my personal opinion because of experience, then you need to open your eyes.

[ChicagoRy]

You posted a $355 buyin hand, and you weren't new to 2p2 at the time.

Yes, when people post hands at high buyins that others feel are laughable/bad, sometimes it does get tense/people get made fun of a bit.

If you have the mentality to handle playing at $355, surely you can take a "lol terrible fold" comment, no?

I'm talking about welcoming actual new players to the game, not users that were around awhile and were playing higher than 95% or more of this forum.

Any other examples? My eyes are open.

[ChicagoRy]

By the way, these posts were made within the first 10 posts of your thread:

Originally Posted by KarlizL

what, how can u fold here, you have 2nd pair + backdoors
i dont know villain but i dont see how u can fold against anyone here
call flop and reeav turn

Originally Posted by matvaju

Im calling flop here 100%. He can cr here some gutshots, worse 9x, total air(cuz he probably expects u to cbet this flop). I would probably call most of turns here, cuz i dont expect villain to not barrel after cr on flop, that would make no sense.

Originally Posted by mersenneary

I'd raise too readless, but I don't think a limp is awful.



I would strongly advise against this type of thinking. It sounds like you're too worried about not knowing where you're at in the hand. Sometimes, it's best to call and be unsure, rather than raise and find out or fold and avoid the situation. Raise/folding gets you owned by draws and spazzy worse 9x and also folds out his air which we can get value from by flatting and calling turn.

I ask again, what clique are you talking about?

Sure, JTS, Chadders, a few others made fun of you, but they were your regular opponents and it was implied in the thread that you complained that they were sitting you in the chat.

[Brocky]

Originally Posted by ChicagoRy

By the way, these posts were made within the first 10 posts of your thread:








I ask again, what clique are you talking about?

Sure, JTS, Chadders, a few others made fun of you, but they were your regular opponents and it was implied in the thread that you complained that they were sitting you in the chat.

I don't think that was the case but I may be wrong as it was a long time ago.

The regs thread is basically a clique and especially when I joined I found it less than welcoming (even before people knew my SN). That is my opinion, I really can't be bothered debating it anymore because I don't care about the HUSNG forum on here at the moment. All i'm saying is, it's easy for you to say "Everyone seems welcoming to newcomers" when you're already in, but try creating a new acc and heading off to a different forum such as HU cash and joining in.

[chadders0]

Originally Posted by Chumplestultz

highstakes regs who don't post strat likely aren't browsing the forum anywhere near as much as they used to. i remember when spamz, primo, hokie etc all posted a ton of strat but they also posted a whole ton of LC stuff. just look at the monthly LC threads. filled with a whole bunch of other entertaining guys, filthy, A_R, AoN, mjw, Grow haha. But then they were replaced with "less entertaining" posters and guys like bunza. Strat ain't the problem, we've just got a **** team at the moment. Just gotta stick it out and wait for some good drafts and the entertaining/quality/high stakes posters like sa to have a reason to post more.

Yeh yeh, apathy etc.

this basically, it's pretty easy to get fed up with some posters and just end up talking to the people you actually like via skype, this then easily becomes the best way to discuss strategy.

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[Benjamin the Donk]

I would love to post strategy but Don't actually know anything worth posting yet :P

[Happyz]

If a rep system was implemented i think that when you create a thread you should have the option of labeling the thread strat, OT and W/E and then make it so you can only rep in strat threads to avoid people downvoting posts made in the husng reg. bc a posters rep status should give a picture of the quality of his strategy posts and not his opinion on us election etc

[iL1keTurtles]

Originally Posted by Happyz

If a rep system was implemented i think that when you create a thread you should have the option of labeling the thread strat, OT and W/E and then make it so you can only rep in strat threads to avoid people downvoting posts made in the husng reg. bc a posters rep status should give a picture of the quality of his strategy posts and not his opinion on us election etc

Agree with this, would be awesome.

[Grusbus]

Only problem I would have with the rep system is that new posters would be afraid to post what they would consider stupid questions because of fear of getting downvoted.