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07-28-2014 , 01:13 AM
So on turn i wasn't sure if i should check, bet\fold, bet\call or bet\reraise.
Villain is aggro and likes to ch\r.

PokerStars - $3.40+$0.10|10/20 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 23.5 BB
BB: 26.5 BB (VPIP: 73.33, PFR: 37.04, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 32)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T T

Hero raises to 2 BB, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (4 BB, 2 players) 3 K 5
BB checks, Hero bets 2 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Turn: (8 BB, 2 players) 9
BB checks, Hero bets 3 BB, BB raises to 8 BB, Hero
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07-28-2014 , 01:58 AM
Before you bet the turn ask yourself what you do when you get ch/raised. This is a very important question. You should already know what to do before he actually ch/raises you.

What street(s) does villain like to ch/r? High c/r flop % would leave him with a very weak range on that turn. You also have the Td as a blocker/weak redraw. I cbet/call here and call his river all in bluff as well.
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07-28-2014 , 03:55 AM
You don't want to cbet TT on that flop too often because they have a lot of Kx in their range. I'd go for a delayed cbet.
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07-28-2014 , 09:07 AM
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You don't want to cbet TT on that flop too often because they have a lot of Kx in their range. I'd go for a delayed cbet.
Don't we need to protect against over cards on the flop though? If anything id rather check the turn behind and call river.

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Before you bet the turn ask yourself what you do when you get ch/raised. This is a very important question. You should already know what to do before he actually ch/raises you.

What street(s) does villain like to ch/r? High c/r flop % would leave him with a very weak range on that turn. You also have the Td as a blocker/weak redraw. I cbet/call here and call his river all in bluff as well.
Good point bro. Thank You! I didn't think ahead at all in this hand obviously... He has some ch\r % on flop but he seams to like ch\r on turn as much if not more. Im not sure what i put him on on the turn. Flush draw? King?
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07-29-2014 , 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Gladiatoranc
Don't we need to protect against over cards on the flop though? If anything id rather check the turn behind and call river.
It seems like there is not a black or white answer for this situation. Villain most likely has every combination of Kx in his range which makes it less desirable to cbet this flop 100%. OTOH a significant part of his range has 6 outs (2 overs to the 5 and 3) so we don't want to check this flop all the time. I guess that given we have a backdoor FD we don't mind checking back this flop as much since we can turn a flush draw so we have a little less incentive to protect the hand. Mixing up checking and cbetting the flop makes sense don't you think?
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07-29-2014 , 08:00 AM
TT doesn't need that much protection, the only hand villain has in his range that has 2 overs is QJ. Because of that imo check back flop is best, it's not too vulnerable vs worse hands and it's crushed vs better (Kx) hands.

On the turn i think barrelling small is good because you can get value from worse 1-card flushdraws.

Vs the ch/r I think it's a clear call, because you said villain is aggro so they have enough spew to justify calling. Without a d it would be a clear fold IMO (and probably a check back instead of a barrel). Vs a readless villain I think it'd be a close call.

I think vs most villains they ch/r turn rarely enough that you don't actually need to know what you're going to do vs them in advance, since it's not a big part of the EV of the decision (also mostly you're just going to be folding). If you think there's a significant possibility that this villain will ch/r turn then you should know in advance what you're doing vs one.
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07-29-2014 , 09:48 AM
After reviewing this game, i don't mind the flop check anymore. We don't need to worry about a 3 and 5. And over cards on the other hands like QJ, JT, Q9s has most likely only one over card in their hand and they probably wouldn't call the flop. Which means that by betting we only get called my Kx and flush draws. Not too many straight draw combos either.
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07-29-2014 , 12:33 PM
Cbetting and checking flop are both fine.
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