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Old 08-08-2012, 09:18 AM   #1
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Smile HU turbo sngs, small poecket pairs

Blinds 10/20
  • [1] effective stack 1200
  • [2] effective stack 700-800


Villain is more to the tight side

Hero [22-99] raises to 40, villain reraises to 120, Hero?

Hero [22-99] raises to 40, villain reraises to 140-160, Hero?



Villain is TAG and have some 3 bet bluffs in his range

Hero [22-99] raises to 40, villain reraises to 120, Hero?

Hero [22-99] raises to 40, villain reraises to 140-160, Hero?



Villain is LAG and is 3 beting a lot and he dont even cares how much we opening

Hero [22-99] raises to 40, villain reraises to 120, Hero?

Hero [22-99] raises to 40, villain reraises to 140-160, Hero?





Blinds 15/30
  • [1] effective stack 1400
  • [2] effective stack 800-900


Villain is more to the tight side

Hero [22-99] raises to 60, villain reraises to 140-150, Hero?

Hero [22-99] raises to 60, villain reraises to 180-210, Hero?



Villain is TAG and have some 3 bet bluffs in his range

Hero [22-99] raises to 60, villain reraises to 140-150 , Hero?

Hero [22-99] raises to 60, villain reraises to 180-210 , Hero?



Villain is LAG and is 3 beting a lot and he dont even cares how much we opening

Hero [22-99] raises to 60, villain reraises to 140-150 , Hero?

Hero [22-99] raises to 60, villain reraises to 180-210 , Hero?



Blinds 20/40
  • [1] effective stack 1200
  • [2] effective stack 700-800

Villain is more to the tight side

Hero [22-99] raises to 80, villain reraises to 180-200, Hero?

Hero [22-99] raises to 80, villain reraises to 220-260, Hero?



Villain is TAG and have some 3 bet bluffs in his range

Hero [22-99] raises to 80, villain reraises to 180-200 , Hero?

Hero [22-99] raises to 80, villain reraises to 220-260 , Hero?



Villain is LAG and is 3 beting a lot and he dont even cares how much we opening

Hero [22-99] raises to 80, villain reraises to 180-200 , Hero?

Hero [22-99] raises to 80, villain reraises to 220-260 , Hero?



Blinds 25/50
  • [1] effective stack 1400
  • [2] effective stack 900-1000


Villain is more to the tight side

Hero [22-99] raises to 100, villain reraises to 200-225, Hero?

Hero [22-99] raises to 100, villain reraises to 250-300, Hero?



Villain is TAG and have some 3 bet bluffs in his range

Hero [22-99] raises to 100, villain reraises to 200-225 , Hero?

Hero [22-99] raises to 100, villain reraises to 250-300 , Hero?



Villain is LAG and is 3 beting a lot and he dont even cares how much we opening

Hero [22-99] raises to 100, villain reraises to 200-225 , Hero?

Hero [22-99] raises to 100, villain reraises to 250-300 , Hero?




Blinds 25/50 ... 30/60, if bigger i think its good to just open shove them.

we minraise with [22-66] effective stacks 1500

tight villain goes all in, we?

TAG goes all in, we?

LAG goes all in, we?


What would be the best play in these situations, dont look hard at 22-99, u can mention for example what you would do with 22-66, 77-88, and so on.
I know that some ppl say that you get to be willing to gable with those small pairs but against tighter players who very rarely 3 bet bluff I just dont think it would be + EV to do that all the time coz u end up flipping with good Ace or are crushed against better pairs. Same thing playing against TAG and LAG when blinds are smaller. So thats why i created some situations to know what are your thoughts about them.
PS - of course sry for my english
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Old 08-08-2012, 11:45 AM   #2
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Re: HU turbo sngs, small poecket pairs

Alot of info up there bud, but for me 22-55 is in a whole different ball park than 77-99.

Vs a tight player pending the stacks lets say over 1,000 in chips with 1,500 starting chips, I would smooth call 22-55 and potentially 3-bet a 77-99, but nothing wrong with smooth calling those either.

Vs a lag- I'm always 3 betting the higher ends of those pocket pair, because the chance of him having an over pp is rare. Lets say you smooth call 99, alot of the time the flop is going to show some over cards which now will put you in a tight spot since a lag will usually c-bet the flop. ( for example vs a lag when you raised 100 and he hit yah back for 300. You can either fold or rr. Calling is just a horrible move because if your smooth calling with 99, chances are that your mind set is that nothing but an ace will get you off this hand. If you rr all in, you can win the pot by a) him folding b) having the better hand.

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Old 08-08-2012, 11:50 AM   #3
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Re: HU turbo sngs, small poecket pairs

Wrong forum but in general 22-55 is a fold to a 3x 3 bet against a tight player
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Old 08-08-2012, 12:04 PM   #4
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Re: HU turbo sngs, small poecket pairs

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Wrong forum but in general 22-55 is a fold to a 3x 3 bet against a tight player
What would be better forum for this?
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Old 08-08-2012, 12:09 PM   #5
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Alot of info up there bud, but for me 22-55 is in a whole different ball park than 77-99.

Vs a tight player pending the stacks lets say over 1,000 in chips with 1,500 starting chips, I would smooth call 22-55 and potentially 3-bet a 77-99, but nothing wrong with smooth calling those either.

Vs a lag- I'm always 3 betting the higher ends of those pocket pair, because the chance of him having an over pp is rare. Lets say you smooth call 99, alot of the time the flop is going to show some over cards which now will put you in a tight spot since a lag will usually c-bet the flop. ( for example vs a lag when you raised 100 and he hit yah back for 300. You can either fold or rr. Calling is just a horrible move because if your smooth calling with 99, chances are that your mind set is that nothing but an ace will get you off this hand. If you rr all in, you can win the pot by a) him folding b) having the better hand.

Hope this helps
Yea im always calling small pocket pairs oop if blinds are not huge but the thing is what to do with for example 55 when TAG 3 bets u 40 to 140 and efective stacks are 1200 - by calling u rarely hit ur set and u know he have a lot of bluffs in his range, but this deep is it correct to 4 bet jam 55 over his 3 bet to 140 if he has 1060 behind? Its just a lot of chips behind and if he calls u flipping or are crushed
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Old 08-08-2012, 12:12 PM   #6
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Re: HU turbo sngs, small poecket pairs

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What would be better forum for this?
There is a HU sng forum. Ill report your post and have it moved for you
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Old 08-08-2012, 12:15 PM   #7
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There is a HU sng forum. Ill report your post and have it moved for you
I have topic there to but seems like nobody dont really want to answer there
And where do u want to move my post?
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Old 08-08-2012, 12:17 PM   #8
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I have topic there to but seems like nobody dont really want to answer there
And where do u want to move my post?
the HU sng forum obv as its the only place for it
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Old 08-08-2012, 07:15 PM   #9
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Re: HU turbo sngs, small poecket pairs

you are thinking in too many variables, like you are putting stacksizes and blinds for different blindlevels. in actual fact all that matters is the effective stacksize in big blinds i.e. 600 chips at 10/20 is the same as 900 chips at 15/30.

i don't think the answers to each individual problem help you, you need to develop a system and a "feel" for those situations. as others pointed out, 22 is not the same as 99, not even close. you should be openjamming those small pps for 25bb and lower, depending on the villain maybe even earlier. deeper you have to get a grasp of your fold equity when 4bet jamming, the deeper the stacks and the tighter your opponents 3bet range, the less inclined you should be to 4bet jam.
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Old 08-09-2012, 09:46 AM   #10
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Re: HU turbo sngs, small poecket pairs

BB t50 and above reraise shove in all situations , otherwise fold.
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Old 08-09-2012, 06:28 PM   #11
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Re: HU turbo sngs, small poecket pairs

I totally agree with pbogz1114..
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Old 08-10-2012, 06:51 AM   #12
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Re: HU turbo sngs, small poecket pairs

Id shove 99 most of the time,small pp you should open shove 25bb,if villian not 3b really tight you can 4b shove,even readless 50-60bb it's close 4b shove.
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Old 08-10-2012, 04:41 PM   #13
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Re: HU turbo sngs, small poecket pairs

id prolly be foldin newhere from22-55, 77-99 prolly flattin, and all others gna be jamming, this is bein early in the game tho. bout 3rd level and above on ST HU's I almost always 3bet jam over with ne pair, even 22..
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