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Old 04-16-2012, 02:39 PM   #103576
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Re: ***HU SNG REGS THREAD***

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Guys live hand help:

2/5/10 straddle live, filled with online/taggy regs, 6-8 handed depending on how many of them actually sit down and play ffs. There's l like 1 fish on the table and 1 weak reg. Everyone else are young online kids and 1 uhh middle aged online "kid". He basically plays like an online kid. Solid. Not super laggy, though they are all thinking players.

Hero is about 1.1k deep, all villains in question including bb cover. BTN has only a bit more, bb has about 2k. sb has like 3k+

Older tag reg opens OTB for 30. SB, online taggy player is villain and calls after a bit. Folded to me in the straddle I have K4ss and 3bet to 105.

Button calls after some thinking, I am sure there's no timing tell though. SB thinks for a bit longer, maybe it's marginal but he tanks decisions all the ****ing time so maybe not.

Pot is about 320. Board is T33ss we have K high over and second nut flush. I cbet 120. Button folds, sb tank raises to 270 ish. We can shove for about 1k total so for about 700 on top of the 270 ish.

How many days of the week are we shipping this?

Like calling's getting 840 into the pot with about pot behind on the turn which is weird, though arguably I'd play overpairs the same so maybe I should flat and fold if he pot shoves the turn, and peel if we get odds? On thinking back maybe he doesn't have much of a raise/fold range though my cbet is a bit small it maaay induce it?
I think you should feel happy about shoving flop given he probably puts you on a lot of air pre and will play accordingly. Seems like a weird bluff from him, but people do retarded weird stuff live.
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Old 04-16-2012, 03:05 PM   #103577
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is stars fishier early eve than late, european time?

or am i fish just more in the game with less single malt engaging my liver?


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Old 04-16-2012, 04:33 PM   #103578
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omg, i cant stop laughing to dcigs prank calls.

JiMMMMMYYYYYYYYY!!!

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Old 04-16-2012, 04:45 PM   #103579
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^ C-P, u have a weird sense of humour. What u find funny that u post usually is long, drawn-out, and not really funny!
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Old 04-16-2012, 04:46 PM   #103580
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Old 04-16-2012, 05:21 PM   #103581
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ofc. stars RNG isnt perfectly random. Computers arent able to give perfect randomness, so they use algorythms to simulate random events. The algorythm has a seed that acts as a variable so the randomness cant be predicted, usually the seed will be the time. that being said, its just gamblers mentality that makes you think you are seeing a pattern where you are [most likely] not.

as humans our brains havent really evolved to understand randomness, because our brains try to recognize patterns, so basically ur just seeing what isnt there
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Old 04-16-2012, 05:26 PM   #103582
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ofc. stars RNG isnt perfectly random. Computers arent able to give perfect randomness, so they use algorythms to simulate random events. The algorythm has a seed that acts as a variable so the randomness cant be predicted, usually the seed will be the time. that being said, its just gamblers mentality that makes you think you are seeing a pattern where you are [most likely] not.

as humans our brains havent really evolved to understand randomness, because our brains try to recognize patterns, so basically ur just seeing what isnt there
So you're saying online poker is rigged?
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Old 04-16-2012, 05:27 PM   #103583
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ofc. stars RNG isnt perfectly random. Computers arent able to give perfect randomness, so they use algorythms to simulate random events. The algorythm has a seed that acts as a variable so the randomness cant be predicted, usually the seed will be the time. that being said, its just gamblers mentality that makes you think you are seeing a pattern where you are [most likely] not.

as humans our brains havent really evolved to understand randomness, because our brains try to recognize patterns, so basically ur just seeing what isnt there
yeah computers just cant simulate perfect randomness..at least i think so, even though they must be able to do that close to perfection.

yeah our brain is telling us many things - i know - however i would very much like to draw a report from my hands.... somehow i just cant make it. but whatsoever - even when i would find ps to be faulty in randomness - i would not be able to change anyting. so it is actually useless.
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Old 04-16-2012, 05:47 PM   #103584
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but atmospheric noise or something can be used to generate true randomness which then can be used by computers i think.
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Old 04-16-2012, 05:53 PM   #103585
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but atmospheric noise or something can be used to generate true randomness which then can be used by computers i think.
will not give true randomness - no - but probably near to it.

anyhow ... speculations over speculations - no need to follow this up
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Old 04-16-2012, 05:54 PM   #103586
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does anybody else have pc crashes when ps poker and itunes on xp professional are running?

remedy?
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Old 04-16-2012, 05:56 PM   #103587
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http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/rng/...labresults.pdf

#3 tells you that this is not an exact science. The validity and source of entropy required for true randomness is something Pokerstars cannot fully verify. Cigital's lab results are based on hardware and software provided to them at the time and operated as such. After certification, if Pokerstars decided to change things, that is, make things less random if they choose, they would still remain certified until Dec. 31st, 2012. Further, I believe their FIPS 140-2 is Level 2 certified, whereas the top certification is Level 4. This means they are not ultimately as secure as they could be.

Bottom line: always question their randon number generator. Never fully trust them. Like a roulette table with a slight tilt, a minute bias in the RNG could be enough for a few players to potentially find a pattern and exploit, and from Pokerstars themselves, they cannot guarantee that this is not the case.

However, I highly doubt any of this would affect you as a player. The random number generator's entropy source seems to be good enough, even if true full randomness is not the case...
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Old 04-16-2012, 06:03 PM   #103588
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http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/rng/...labresults.pdf

#3 tells you that this is not an exact science. The validity and source of entropy required for true randomness is something Pokerstars cannot fully verify. Cigital's lab results are based on hardware and software provided to them at the time and operated as such. After certification, if Pokerstars decided to change things, that is, make things less random if they choose, they would still remain certified until Dec. 31st, 2012. Further, I believe their FIPS 140-2 is Level 2 certified, whereas the top certification is Level 4. This means they are not ultimately as secure as they could be.

Bottom line: always question their randon number generator. Never fully trust them. Like a roulette table with a slight tilt, a minute bias in the RNG could be enough for a few players to potentially find a pattern and exploit, and from Pokerstars themselves, they cannot guarantee that this is not the case.

However, I highly doubt any of this would affect you as a player. The random number generator's entropy source seems to be good enough, even if true full randomness is not the case...
there is a lot of "Hope" in this

...whatsoever, i do not believe in audits in general, often they are not really made very professional. i have seen so many things passing audits. many of the audits even not finding obvious malicious things. and believe me, these audits that i have seen were not tackling unimportant stuff at all.
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Old 04-16-2012, 06:20 PM   #103589
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as far as i know, computer's randomness has been designed to simulate the lowest variance. for instance, when we do 100 rolls of six-sided dice, the computer will generate close to equal numbers of each result. but if you'd try to do this by yourself, probably you will obtain unbalanced result.

in probability theory exist theorem called the law of large numbers which says that we need repeat event close to infinite times in order to be sure of balanced results.

that means live runs can be much colder than computer ones
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:01 PM   #103590
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Re: ***HU SNG REGS THREAD***

Stars uses user input (mouse movements + timing of events) and quantum randomness as their sources of entropy.

Bottom line is, if this is true, no one will "crack the code" and figure out which card is coming next. You aren't noticing patterns.
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