***HU SNG REGS THREAD***

[Doug]

can any1 transfer 2-3k ft for stars please, pm me if u can?

[sejje]

Originally Posted by StreamlineR

it's even less of a mistake since you can reload

I doubt this changes the severity of a mistake.

[StreamlineR]

Originally Posted by sejje

I doubt this changes the severity of a mistake.

it does change because in a sng these 200 chips are very valuable and you are now at a disadvantage stacks-wise, whereas in cash nothing changes (even if you don't reload actually, that part was just wrong) since stacks don't really matter in cash, every chip has the same $ value.

[Nostalgica]

Every chip has the same value in an HUSnG. CEV = $EV. Only difference is if you reload, your stack size wills till be at least 100bbs, meaning that if you prefer to play deeper than usual husng stacks, then you still can, and of course in cash games you may expect a longer game stretching over more buyins and therefore meta, images, and reads gained earlier on matter more.

[Kaiji]

I've started hu sng 2 months ago.
started 10s 20s ITM was 52~53% and made profit
and I took a shot 22s turbo 1month ago

This is 22s Turbo lifetime garph..




SNGLUCK says im down 40k chips under expectation

If I see this graph at SS, I would mark him as fish
am I really fish or variance comes first in my turbo games?
Im really depressed nowadays

[StreamlineR]

Originally Posted by Nostalgica

Every chip has the same value in an HUSnG. CEV = $EV. Only difference is if you reload, your stack size wills till be at least 100bbs, meaning that if you prefer to play deeper than usual husng stacks, then you still can, and of course in cash games you may expect a longer game stretching over more buyins and therefore meta, images, and reads gained earlier on matter more.

http://www.husng.com/node/707

get it ?

[ac on]

Originally Posted by StreamlineR

http://www.husng.com/node/707

get it ?

That article does not imply that losing $1 worth of chips in a SNG is a greater loss than losing $1 worth of chips in cash. $EV is still cEV.

There is a difference between BR optimizing your bankroll growth and and always taking the action with the most expected value.

[StreamlineR]

it actually implies just that as I understood it

[Andres_A]

Hi guys. I go on tilt very easily and that is a new problem to me, i didnt use to go on tilt at all b4 autumn. Every little suckout makes me angry and i just lacking confidence whitch ruins my game totally and im worried.Things are not going great for me recently and i thought maybe taking a week off from poker is doing good to me. Any of you guys have any experience with this? Did it help ?

[pythagoras345]

Originally Posted by rendalli

If you play good villians you have to pay attention with thinking this way:

Proof by contradiction:

You just said you would call an overpush with top pair acceptable kicker on a pretty dangerous board. Your reasoning is: if you are villain, there is much value in a normal bet if you have a good hand because not much is gonna call a push... which basically means that your top pair acceptable kicker (that you call with) is gonna fold.
What I mean is that its dangerous to assume per se that your opponent is thinking on the fist level only.

I understand what you are saying. I guess I should have said THIS (not all) over push coupled with the rest of his line on three previous streets, screamed he was only thinking on level one and thus the worst of worst bluff attempts. So I made a basic level two decision and snap called as soon as I was done laughing.

But yes, if I am sitting on a straight and first to act, I might overbet push in certain situations, since smaller straights and qqq is still calling and it might induce a call from weaker hands from players thinking it was a bluff. But I just think earlier streets line would be much different. And yes, in this spot, even with Q hitting, I believe I am capable of folding three queens, If I feel villian is on level 2, and I need to make level 3 decision.

[Doug]

Yeah sound slike ur a bit like me, I mean I tilt like everyone but Id say usually I tilt less than most. However if I run bad for a prolonged period I get way more tilty during sessions and my play is affected way more. Take the last 2 months, Ive had a 1500 game vreakeven stretch and have ran like death, and a couple weeks ago I was playing almost always tilted, Id losse a cpl flips in a row and bemoan my bad luck. If I was winning that month or woteva lossing a few flips wouldnt come close to bothering me. So I noticed I was getting way too tilty and took a day or two off and then stared playing again, focusing on playing my best and tring not to worry bout results. Im still riunning like death but am playing better and know Ill start to run good some day soon.

[StreamlineR]

Originally Posted by ac on

There is a difference between BR optimizing your bankroll growth and and always taking the action with the most expected value.

whereas in cash there is no difference
QED

[ac on]

Originally Posted by StreamlineR

whereas in cash there is no difference
QED

Yeah, go to a cash game you're just barely rolled for and take every 51/49 you can find. :s

Seriously, if you really think that there is no difference between making EV+ decisions and maximizing your BR growth in cash, then why do you practice bankroll management? Just stick your whole roll on the table if you see a big fish.

[derosnec]

Originally Posted by Andres_A

Hi guys. I go on tilt very easily and that is a new problem to me, i didnt use to go on tilt at all b4 autumn. Every little suckout makes me angry and i just lacking confidence whitch ruins my game totally and im worried.Things are not going great for me recently and i thought maybe taking a week off from poker is doing good to me. Any of you guys have any experience with this? Did it help ?

taking some time off to cool down is ok - like an hour or a day. not sure what a week does that a day doesn't. the thing is it's only a bandaid. the root problem is still there and will surface quickly again. i dealt with tilt for a few years. it's not until this year that i can got a real good handle of it. playing a bazillion hands and getting a personal feel for variance helps a lot. getting better at poker helps a lot (look at how many hands in the HU Tilt thread are played atrociously). also the Tommy Angelo series at deucescracked is worth the $29 subscription fee. also game type is important. turbos tilt me. i have a much higher edge in reg speeds - because there's more much postflop play - so it works better for me psychologically than losing with A9 to A3 ai pf etc. i decided to drop turbos altogether and it has spared me so much tilt.

main thing, i think, is that it's headsup. there will be suckouts and coolers galore. but when you run good and over the long haul, you'll see how awesome it is that people are calling you/getting it all in with 30% equity and so you won't tilt when they suck out on you.

that said, the one thing that still tilts me are calling stations who i think i'm valuetowning with a good hand but am instead just betting into the nuts as they simply keep calling.

[pythagoras345]

Originally Posted by Kaiji

I've started hu sng 2 months ago.
started 10s 20s ITM was 52~53% and made profit
and I took a shot 22s turbo 1month ago

This is 22s Turbo lifetime garph..




SNGLUCK says im down 40k chips under expectation

If I see this graph at SS, I would mark him as fish
am I really fish or variance comes first in my turbo games?
Im really depressed nowadays

Be carefull with these graphs. Note that this represents 1800 of 36k hands played. So even thou it is the biggest pots, it is still only a part of the game. Make sure you are reviewing the rest of your game and not drawing conclustions just on this graph.

But you can say that 40k chips is like a 13 game swing (3k to take loss to win).

So add 13 to your win column, remove 13 from your loss column and use that to calculate your non-luck ROI. This can help you stay saine and give you a better feel for how you are really playing.