Hello,

I wanna ask you what do you thinking about HU SnG future on Amaya Gaming and overall poker?

Most people every year say it's only going to get worse bc players improve (which is fallacy in of itself bc everyone pretty much always improves at poker and that doesn't make games less profitable).

The truth is, nobody really knows. Nobody predicted that after BF HUSNGs would thrive. Nobody predicted the rake increase of recent. And nobody can tell you where HUSNGs go from here.

At least historically, no type of person (HS reg, great theoretical player, top coach, business owner, site employee) has had some magic insight that makes their predictions true a lot of the time when it comes to this game.

My own personal guess would be that HUSNGs will end up being somewhere between 2009 and 2012 type traffic (not as good as the latter, but better than the former) and profitability for top regs for 2015.

But really, country segregation has been a huge factor in all of poker. If say Germany or Russia just decides to self regulate poker or to actually ban it in an effective way, that would likely have some negative impact on every poker game.

If US/Canadian governments regulate and then join international player pools, that would have a positive impact on every poker game I believe.

Not that either of those country segregation things (positive or negative) are likely. Things like that do happen every so often, however, and it can have a major impact on traffic/liquidity/profitability.

Spin and Gos should damper any potential growth of HUSNGs too. That's not necessarily a bad thing or anything though (like when hyper HUSNGs came out, it reduced turbo HUSNG traffic, not a bad thing at all in that case... HUSNGs became much more profitable quickly... spin and gos could make SNGs more profitable quickly too, jury is still out).

Just look at the lobbies yourself.. its high season.. its dead.
Look 5 months ahead... it will be very very bad.

People might blame Spin&Gos for alot of traffic loss and this is true. But frankly, as soon as this crazy game opened a lot of reg(fish) took their business there due to the shenningans of the divisions and other nonsense that went down... So you can look at the traffic loss from two sides really.. People think its a great game to play OR people were just sick of husngs and waited for something else.

action seems same to me at 200/300s than 1 year ago.. so i guess most affected ppl is from mid to low stakes.

And you think higher stakes can exist without middle/lower stakes?
And lets wait for 60/100 Spins in a couple weeks/months..

It could be possible that the ammount of players that stopped playing 200+ for 30$ spins is balanced by those who hit big and gamble it at 200+ , just exactly like MTTs bring ****loads of volume to hyperturbo hu's.

I also agree including 100$ spins would be pretty much ggs to hypers

But im veeeeery skeptical stars will offer 216/360k prizepool spin and gos... think that would be pretty ridic.

ofc they will, its like a jackpot on slot machine and casino is coming in few weeks.

Imo if they dont do superb job on advertising/bringing people for that sportsbook/casino and all it does is steal casual players from poker (which might be the case cuz they dont need to split deposits with regs), its GG poker all around, not only hu sng

One thing that might hold them back doing so so far is the fact that they dont have an automated deal mechanism. If they implement that which they indicated at some point in the past, i dont see many reasons against that.

I have no information here, but I can't imagine why they would not introduce these at higher levels.

I don't know where it would stop, but I doubt it will stop as low as $30s.

Short term variance can be brutal and people can actually run below EV for a long time in a rare event, but this sentence describes some of the most popular forms of poker too.

Agree about the deal button, I think that is a smart move even for HUSNGs, let alone for every level of Spin and Go. From a business perspective, it gives you the same rake faster and removes the need to step in to facilitate deals or deal with angleshooting deal situations. From a player perspective, it makes life far easier to have a reliable deal option.

I remember I read somewhere that Russia is about to leave international player pool mid 2015, and that would be insanely bad for us. I'd guess you follow poker news more than me, are you sure it's unlikely?

A lot of stuff has happened in Russia (and other countries like Germany at times), but as far as I know an actual effective ban isn't in place or set in stone or likely.

I haven't been keeping as close an eye on the poker news the last two months, just browsing the headlines every few days, but that was my understanding.

Didn't Russia had plans to regulate poker in mid 2015? I read an article about it few weeks ago.

I see this - http://www.pokernewsreport.com/regul...-forward-17132

Hopefully it doesn't mean fencing their players off, because otherwise, some of the details of the potential proposal sound good to me.

They has no effective tools to regulate poker. Actually, they can't do anything in right way, paper declarations and a real life = huge difference in Russia. In fact, poker as anyother gambling activity was banned 5-8 years ago.

and 888poker?