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Old 09-21-2012, 08:44 PM   #1
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Arrow HT, River spot, bluff catch or fold 100%

I wasnt sure here, let me explan. I was going to try to bet steal on turn vs any Ace, board pair'd made me ready to c/f, but 9 hits river and imo it was a 50/50 that Ace high, and lower pairs would bet here, but i also think they check for showdown value. of course the nuts would be like this also, probably over thinking this easy fold but wanted to know.





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    BB: 355 (11.8 bb)
    Hero (SB): 645 (21.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 7 9
    Hero raises to 60, BB calls 30

    Flop: (120) K 5 K (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets 60, BB calls 60

    Turn: (240) 5 (2 players)
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    River: (240) 9 (2 players)
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    Old 09-21-2012, 08:50 PM   #2
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    Bet smaller on flop otherwise wp
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    Old 09-21-2012, 10:20 PM   #3
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    Re: HT, River spot, bluff catch or fold 100%

    45 on the flop is sufficient turn is obv one of the worst to barrel and i would call the river because random floats and even A high bet here( not sure why i guess they dont want to be put to a tough decesion )
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    Old 09-22-2012, 04:23 AM   #4
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    Re: HT, River spot, bluff catch or fold 100%

    I don't think this is a good call just because people at micros never bluff with this sizing.
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    Old 09-22-2012, 05:11 AM   #5
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    Re: HT, River spot, bluff catch or fold 100%

    Def bet less on the flop, but i was thinking and why not bet turn and shove vs a river check, like even though its a bad turn card you can still get a decent amount of folds and then if he comes out betting on the river we can fold super comfortably, its not that common in these stakes to get looked up by AX after 3 barrells imo.... Is this dumb?
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    Old 09-22-2012, 10:48 AM   #6
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    Re: HT, River spot, bluff catch or fold 100%

    jam pre
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    Old 09-22-2012, 11:06 AM   #7
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    jam pre
    Take back my post, didn't take notice it was 11bb eff so this.
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    Old 09-22-2012, 11:33 AM   #8
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    Re: HT, River spot, bluff catch or fold 100%

    jam pre, call river, smaller flop
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    Old 09-22-2012, 11:44 AM   #9
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    Re: HT, River spot, bluff catch or fold 100%

    jam pre vs most players. as played bet smaller on flop then barrel turn. as played call
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    Old 09-22-2012, 12:00 PM   #10
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    Re: HT, River spot, bluff catch or fold 100%

    imo minraise vs weak player is way better than openshove (obv if hes not 3betting as a devil)

    river is defly a call

    and yes, vs fish its probably a 2nd barrel on the turn
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    Old 09-22-2012, 07:31 PM   #11
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    Re: HT, River spot, bluff catch or fold 100%

    lol 11 bb my bad
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    Old 09-22-2012, 07:50 PM   #12
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    Re: HT, River spot, bluff catch or fold 100%

    Tough one I cant figure out a decente play here to be honest...
    Would limping be a option since 79s plays so well on the flop?
    If we jam hes gonna call with too many hands this deep that dominate us like every decente J,Q,K and every A imo so idk
    Its a 1,50 game so as much as it sucks I guess id fold. I see very few bluffs in his range and A and even Q high are most likely to check this down.
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    Old 09-22-2012, 11:09 PM   #13
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    Re: HT, River spot, bluff catch or fold 100%

    limp (depends on his postflop tendencies and if he 3bets/flatting range) or shove pre vs most players. bet smaller on flop. As played... I dunno but on 30s I would never barrel turn with air maybe thats a leak, but I dont see villain calling flop with random air often enough especially this short AND with your flop sizing (in this scenario). Also there is close to no Ax in average villains range here so thats another inexistant weak part of his range that you cant get him off of.

    On river I think I'd call but i dont really agree with snap call like people have been saying. Villain is super polarized here and given the odds + its a 1.5 BI so more likely to see PP/Ax/random air in his range = call

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    Old 09-23-2012, 03:40 AM   #14
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    Re: HT, River spot, bluff catch or fold 100%

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    its not that common in these stakes to get looked up by AX after 3 barrells imo
    Yes it is.
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    Old 09-23-2012, 03:31 PM   #15
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    Re: HT, River spot, bluff catch or fold 100%

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    jam pre vs most players. as played bet smaller on flop then barrel turn. as played call
    Can you explain why you barreling turn here?
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