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Old 12-09-2011, 11:57 AM   #46
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Re: HUSNG.com presents: The free mersenneary ebook

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i mean i didnt mean it in a bad way but i think this book will very disproportionately help -1 to 1 roi type guys but w/e thats life gotta adapt or die
i am with you on this, one of the few points where i disagree with mersenneary. at least in superturbos, where you can have a really big edge against bad regs, they can be taught pretty easily to become only slight losers against better regs. reason is that solid strategies that are hardly exploitable are much less complex than in deeper stack games.

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Old 12-09-2011, 12:05 PM   #47
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lol don't play hyper's all the way turbo!
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Old 12-09-2011, 01:16 PM   #48
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i mean i didnt mean it in a bad way but i think this book will very disproportionately help -1 to 1 roi type guys but w/e thats life gotta adapt or die
Pretty strongly disagree, ebook should widen the gap between the talented/hardworking and the mediocre. People like you will get a lot more out of it.

Let me ask you this: Which group do you think spamz's HH reviews helped more? To me, the answer is very clear. I expect this ebook to be similar.
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Old 12-09-2011, 01:30 PM   #49
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By the way, very much appreciate the positive response so far.

Definitely feel free to discuss impact on games etc and I don't mind people not seeing things my way, I think discussion of different frameworks/approaches is going to be a valuable part of this.
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Old 12-09-2011, 01:52 PM   #50
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first i wasnt fond of this book, too. but i changed my mind about it and can't wait to get my hands on it.

thank you mers!
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Old 12-09-2011, 01:59 PM   #51
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Nah i agree with you mersenneary. I don't think it will impact games that much other than help the hardest working and more intelligent people increase their edge. I mean Spamz HH reviews, husng.com and the forum overall have gave every person the chance to crush this game yet we still have a very profitable game. A couple of years back there was almost nothing on this game and now look what's available! Yet theres still plenty of money on the table to be taken! If anything, it might get regs to become better and actually drive the 1% guys out by sitting them and taking a much higher edge vs them!

So i remain positive. Again though, the fact your doing this work for free says a lot about you as a person. It's much appreciated for sure.
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Old 12-09-2011, 02:05 PM   #52
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Yeah, hes a gay hippie, thank you Mers!!!

I always thought that avatar was suspicious btw
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Old 12-09-2011, 02:14 PM   #53
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there have been many moments in 2+2/training video history when i thought "great, now the games are ruined." but i still make money consistently, and i'm no poker genius. there was Fees' 6max free pdf, Spamz HHs, Mers ST videos, and so on. i cringed when i read that a free book is coming out in the low edge world of STs, especially since i play on regsville merge. but in the end these freebies always help me make more money, but maybe if i played higher stakes that wouldn't be the case, i dunno.

i'm not sure why it is that fish regs don't get a whole lot better with this stuff. i mean yeah games are always getting tougher but i seem to stay ahead of fish regs, and i'm no great theorist. maybe it's a lack of experience. having played 500 hundred gazillion billion games makes me more comfortable and less spazzy and more adaptive i think. so someone with 3,000 games under their belt with lots of free 2+2 theory crammed in their brain might get overloaded and misapply stuff in-game.

maybe another thing is fish regs don't do their own homework. there's a lot of stuff not in books that needs to be worked out mathematically. there's no time in-game to do them because of different ranges and stack sizes. i've done a good bit on my own, maybe enough that it keeps me one step ahead of fish regs.

also tilt issues are a biggie.

another is maybe i'm enjoying remarkably long-term good variance against them
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Old 12-09-2011, 03:16 PM   #54
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I think it's because fish regs are the most stubborn of any and will have more fun quoting new terms they learn from this book than learning valuable lessons and applying superior thought process to their games.
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Old 12-09-2011, 03:40 PM   #55
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I think I recognize like 90% of the chapters, hmm I wonder why :P. Well atleast I got to read them before most people . Now let us all pray that our opponents won't read it :O.

On a more serious note ofcourse it's great when you know something that other regs don't but this information would have came out sooner or later in one form or another.
I would have prefered later but whatever I guess we are forced to grow if we want to continue pwning.
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Old 12-09-2011, 04:07 PM   #56
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Re: HUSNG.com presents: The free mersenneary ebook

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Pretty strongly disagree, ebook should widen the gap between the talented/hardworking and the mediocre. People like you will get a lot more out of it.

Let me ask you this: Which group do you think spamz's HH reviews helped more? To me, the answer is very clear. I expect this ebook to be similar.
Ty mers you are awesome for this, all you fish regs complaining need to shut up. I can't wait for the book to be released and because of the fact that fish/fish regs will just misapply the info presented in this book and widen the gap for us better players I have been going around to as much tables that I can telling everyone about it



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Old 12-09-2011, 04:20 PM   #57
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stop doing what you are doing, seriously
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Old 12-09-2011, 04:38 PM   #58
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As much as I'm going to be reading this along with everyone else most likely.

This makes the games even tougher than ever before!

Thanks though, looks very good.
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Pretty strongly disagree, ebook should widen the gap between the talented/hardworking and the mediocre. People like you will get a lot more out of it.
I think it's fairly obvious the hardworking (and usually better players) will put more effort into studying and applying it. But with only so much edge possible, they stand to gain a lot less than they stand to lose. Since they are not playing that far from optimal in the first place a lot of study will only increase their edge over a fish reg a little bit, while even a small amount of study for the fishy reg will decrease the good reg's edge on the fish reg by much more.
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Old 12-09-2011, 05:00 PM   #60
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Re: HUSNG.com presents: The free mersenneary ebook

I am REALLY looking forward to this merc! I've recently begun seriously learning and studying STHUSNGs and this will make a huge impact.

To all those talking about Spamz HH, is there a specific thread or you just talking about his general posts?

Thanks again!
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