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09-12-2012 , 06:33 AM
wfif I am a micro stakes player, brought this HUD and love it.
It has all the stats I have previously wanted, and whilst I don't get that much sample size against players at lower stakes I feel it is much more beneficial for post game reviews with the specific info it provides. (also swapped the hud from villain to hero and found a few glaring errors in my play)

you either want the HUD and agree to buy it, or you don't, and you don't buy. I don't get the big deal with all the comments (just 2+2 I guess)

will the HUD make me better - no, but I can use the HUD to make me a better player.
There for to me it is worth the money.

anyway: reason for post : Coffeeyay - were you / are you / or have you done a full in depth video for product? - see page 3 of this thread

cheers mate
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09-12-2012 , 06:35 AM
Still working on the bonus video. I'm hoping i'll get it done by the end of the week
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09-12-2012 , 06:37 AM
oh yeah, also can you do an option to add a chubash chart instead of nash chart for the pop up, coloured by BB (eg 12bb green / 10bb yellow/ 8bb amber etc) rather than suit/ off suit. Or if I amend it myself will it effect any future updates?
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09-12-2012 , 07:59 AM
No because Skalansky-Chubokov numbers are at best useless sorry .
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09-12-2012 , 09:17 PM
couple of Q's:

Limp Trap stat. 13bb and under. Is it possible to change this to like 15 or 20bb and under? I see a decent chunk of people limptrapping a bit deeper than 13.
Also it sounds like its defined as "Limptraps divided by limp call with weak hands + limp folds". IS that right? But whats the cutoff point for limp call a weak or value hand?

FvProbe. Makes sense and I love it, but for the River version, is that when a hand checks thru flop AND turn then you lead river? OR can it also include flop going ch bet, call. Turn ch thru. I lead river OOP?
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09-13-2012 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by braminc
Limp Trap stat. 13bb and under. Is it possible to change this to like 15 or 20bb and under? I see a decent chunk of people limptrapping a bit deeper than 13.
Also it sounds like its defined as "Limptraps divided by limp call with weak hands + limp folds". IS that right? But whats the cutoff point for limp call a weak or value hand?
Changing the depth region seems like a reasonable suggestion - we'll certainly take that into consideration.

LTR = (limped and showed down a trapping hand (22+, A2+, K9+, K8s, QT+, Q9s)) / (limped & saw showdown + limp folded)

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Originally Posted by braminc
FvProbe. Makes sense and I love it, but for the River version, is that when a hand checks thru flop AND turn then you lead river? OR can it also include flop going ch bet, call. Turn ch thru. I lead river OOP?
A probe bet is a bet out of position after the player who could have made a continuation bet on the prior street did not make that continuation bet.
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09-13-2012 , 02:52 PM
If we talking about sugestions i was thinking it would be really beneficial to add one more line and make 50+ and 30-50bb instead of 30+bb because i think people play a bit diferently 70bb that lets say 35bb.

Any opinions?
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09-13-2012 , 08:20 PM
Hey sorry to be posting so many things in this thread, but i finally purchased PT4 and coffeehud last night. After PT4.05 beta crashed my whole windows and i spent all day repairing it. The hud showed up for 1 game, about 5 hands in, then didnt show for the next 9 games, just 1 tabling. Few games were missing from PT4 at the end as well. Program is so glitchy I dont know if its the beta or the hud or everything.

I looked around PT4 forums and found nothing exactly like what i had happen. Lots of people having hud problems in general though. Thoughts?

Is it possible to get refund if this isnt fixable for me? I just dropped $200 on stuff that crashed my windows (vmfusion on mac) and still freezes up everytime i use it. Went back to HEM after those 10 games and 100% smooth sailing.

Still thx for all the hard work and patience with questions and stuff
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09-13-2012 , 10:16 PM
Try downgrading to 4.04.1 and putting in a pt support ticket
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09-14-2012 , 04:53 AM
make sure the hand history folder PT auto imports from is completely empty aside from current games, the 5-hands delayed + crash suggests this might be the problem. PT4 is very touchy about large number of files in the HH folders.

Also this is probably not the case given VMWare on Mac, but look in configuration that the "import from site while playing" is OFF for every other site you're not playing at. The setup wizard ignores what you tell it, and checks everything it detects. A lot of people I've had locking up / no hud /crashes, I've found auto-import trying to process their entire FTP history despite being told not to during setup.

I'd not recommend 4.04 "stable", it doesn't like Stars and IIRC CoffeeHUD requires 4.05+ anyhow.
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09-14-2012 , 10:56 AM
thx dave, followed those steps and still having same issues.

i just tried pt4.05beta with a normal, basic hud. the results were slightly better, though still with a large amount of lag/sluggishness. I have 4mb of ram dedicated just to windows, so its certainly not normal and never had this happen with HEM.

i guess the problem lies in combination of both PT4 issues and coffeehud adds more stress since i guess its so big and extrapolating so many stats..?
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09-14-2012 , 11:17 AM
I'd try rebuilding the cache (Database -> Database Managment -> Rebuild Cache).
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09-14-2012 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by _dave_
make sure the hand history folder PT auto imports from is completely empty aside from current games, the 5-hands delayed + crash suggests this might be the problem. PT4 is very touchy about large number of files in the HH folders.
^^^ This. Particularly if you did a batch import from your site HH folder, you need to manually move the files afterward. Not doing that caused major issues for me similar to what you have. It's outlined in PT4's troubleshooting guide:
https://www.pokertracker.com/guides/...-while-playing
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09-15-2012 , 12:33 PM
Did you go through the antivirus/firewall setup guide? This should also reduce sluggishness. On my phone so I don't have the link but it is easy to find going through PT support in the application.
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09-15-2012 , 06:35 PM
I tried the rebuild cache suggestion, didnt help. I moved all HHs out of auto-import, also didnt change. I already had all files auto-moved to other location. I dont see what antivirus/firewall settings have to do with anything. I guess I'll try that too but every other software including HEM runs 100% smoothly as is...
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09-15-2012 , 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by braminc
I tried the rebuild cache suggestion, didnt help. I moved all HHs out of auto-import, also didnt change. I already had all files auto-moved to other location. I dont see what antivirus/firewall settings have to do with anything. I guess I'll try that too but every other software including HEM runs 100% smoothly as is...
Maybe newer postgres would help. Can you use 64 bit software (dont know how is it on vmfusion)?. Version 9.0.x is for 64 bit.
It seams that number of stats (mostly custom) can cause your problems. You need faster database. You can try to instal new postgres and additionally tune it . There is postgres add on for this. Tunning will assign more memory resources to your database.
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09-16-2012 , 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by butitswrong
Changing the depth region seems like a reasonable suggestion - we'll certainly take that into consideration.

LTR = (limped and showed down a trapping hand (22+, A2+, K9+, K8s, QT+, Q9s)) / (limped & saw showdown + limp folded)



A probe bet is a bet out of position after the player who could have made a continuation bet on the prior street did not make that continuation bet.
So just to reiterate, it's both things braminc said put together? The river stat is any time someone donks river after turn goes ch/ch?


And about LTR: Whats a good sample for this to be useful? I'm having a hard time applying it.

Also what's the likelihood PT will add villain pov hero stats in the future?

Last edited by newluck2k; 09-16-2012 at 02:17 AM.
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09-16-2012 , 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by LLuke
Maybe newer postgres would help. Can you use 64 bit software (dont know how is it on vmfusion)?. Version 9.0.x is for 64 bit.
It seams that number of stats (mostly custom) can cause your problems. You need faster database. You can try to instal new postgres and additionally tune it . There is postgres add on for this. Tunning will assign more memory resources to your database.
Yeah, I think outdated database software can be the cause of your problems. I'd guess it's a compatibility issue rather then just database speed problem though (given that the problem is the same with built in HUD profiles and the fact that HEM runs smoothly). I had several problems with old postgres when I changed from HEM 1.

What version of postgres are you running?

Have you started a PT support ticket?
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09-18-2012 , 04:44 PM
I dont get it, Am I supposed to get a hardware ID first time I run the program? I don´t have one.
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09-19-2012 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Dilandio
I dont get it, Am I supposed to get a hardware ID first time I run the program? I don´t have one.
Yeah it should be the first thing that pops up when you run the installer.

Feel free to contact me with more details so I can help figure this out.
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09-19-2012 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Dilandio
I dont get it, Am I supposed to get a hardware ID first time I run the program? I don´t have one.
Just to be clear, it should be when you run the installer (not PT4)
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09-29-2012 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by coffeeyay
Ok so it sounds like I should make a vid analyzing a couple of players in depth with the HUD. I'll also show how to view your own stats through the HUD.

It's now on my list of things to do--I'm hoping i get it done within the week

Cheers guys
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Originally Posted by Smashed
wfif I am a micro stakes player, brought this HUD and love it.
It has all the stats I have previously wanted, and whilst I don't get that much sample size against players at lower stakes I feel it is much more beneficial for post game reviews with the specific info it provides. (also swapped the hud from villain to hero and found a few glaring errors in my play)

you either want the HUD and agree to buy it, or you don't, and you don't buy. I don't get the big deal with all the comments (just 2+2 I guess)

will the HUD make me better - no, but I can use the HUD to make me a better player.
There for to me it is worth the money.

anyway: reason for post : Coffeeyay - were you / are you / or have you done a full in depth video for product? - see page 3 of this thread

cheers mate
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Originally Posted by coffeeyay
Still working on the bonus video. I'm hoping i'll get it done by the end of the week

Oops.

A week has a very long definition to me apparently

I still haven't made this, just been super absorbed with some other projects. I'm beginning a Mathematics Masters program so I've been absorbed in Category Theory

There are updates coming to the HUD soon, a few highly requested stats going to be included, so please stay tuned. And I'll try to get the video done...

Within a week?

Sorry to make you all be patient
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09-30-2012 , 05:49 AM
I tried to use coffee hud for HU cash but 90+% of the stats aren't working. Any idea why?
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09-30-2012 , 06:08 AM
PT4 splits it's database for no real reason into tourney and cash. CoffeHUD custom stats all done on the "tournament_hand_player_statistics" table (and other (tournament_* variants), I should think.

It won't be a big deal to go through and recreate for cash table (it is near identical), but PT4 interface for making custom stats will make this trivial task a gargantuan effort
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09-30-2012 , 09:27 AM
Yeah currently CoffeeHUD does not fully support cash game use. We made it specifically for HUSNGs, so everything is optimized with those in mind. It's possible there is a way to make it work currently (butitswrong perhaps you have an idea?). Likely making a cash compatible version is a feature that we can include in a future update if there is interest.
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