Maybe I'm missing it but where do the makers of this hud promise to turn breakeven players into big winners?

It seems to me they're presenting data in an efficient way so that people who choose to educate themselves via the videos on HUSNG can leverage it more effectively without going through the tedium of doing it themselves.

Also:

Agreed, so then the priced reflects the product then?

See the problem is the online poker world is getting to a stage were people believe they have a hidden secret to sell, so they capitalize on it financially.

CTS took the piss with his $3000 book, cash huds take the piss charging $1000s, Note caddy with all its add on huds and programs took the piss.

when people realize that to become a constant winner, it is to just study and understand RANGES, sizing's, bankroll management, mental game awareness (Tilt control), and above all structure your poker well.

This is not found in any add-on software its not found in the next great hud layout its found buy working hard speaking to people that play better than you and it takes time.

throwing money at wont get you far, just hard work and getting in the right study groups will get you their.

I am going to stop posting here as it just seems to be a waist of time, but i hope people take a step back and think about this before deciding to buy it.

I'd like to hire you please

I'm not going to respond to every last complaint but I'll put up a few things to clarify matters a bit:

--Obviously there is no guarantee it won't improve your game. For example, if you don't look at it at all it will not help. A losing player who likes to get drunk and click buttons with no concept of ranges will get nothing out of it (other than maybe some fun and a nice feeling that he is a baller which is worth something).

--It will provide you with a ton of extra information you can use to adapt to your villain in more ways, and it is made so that the stats are true to what they represent and are made to be maximally useful and applicable to HUSNGs.

--A hard working player will be able to get a ton out of it, both as an in game aid and a study tool out of game. I'm committed to making sure that everyone who wants to improve and gain edge from the HUD understands the stats and how to use them--this is why there is a free 40 min video that not only discusses the definitions of the stats but also gives examples of how to use them to exploit villains. This is also why I'm working on making another free video to explore more ways to use it to exploit villains, as well as how to use it as an out of game study tool.

--The HUD took around 100 hours to make so if you are a winning player (basically at any stakes) it's +EV to buy this over building it yourself and its not something you can build in a day, sorry. Care was put into all the details and every small thing got attention.

--A lot of design and thought went into every single detail of this HUD so this isn't just some project for me and butitswrong to get $, its a work of .

RU, if you have some personal problems with the HUD or with me feel free to PM me about it too. But be aware that perhaps if you don't play HUSNGs you may not fully understand the value or the specific details of the HUD as well and chances are you didn't watch the video to get them (because why would you, you play PLO ). It can often be easy to criticize what we don't understand and are not planning on putting in effort to understand. But regardless, thanks for your thoughts on the matter, I hope I've done a decent job answering some of your concerns.

Ok this will be my last reply to this as clearly you’re a guy with limited inelegance, so let’s give it a shot.

Your first response is to say - --Obviously there is no guarantee it won't improve your game. For example, if you don't look at it at all it will not help. A losing player who likes to get drunk and click buttons with no concept of ranges will get nothing out of it (other than maybe some fun and a nice feeling that he is a baller which is worth something).

From this response it’s very clear to see what an unprofessional you really are towards your product and customer comments in regards to you hud.

“I'd like to hire you please” This is not about me, this is about your business plan and ethics that’s what I have called in to question here in regards to pricing.

“I'm not going to respond to every last complaint” well that fits in well to not answering the pricing matter, as you can see for yourself you never answered that in any of your posts (convenient?)

--The HUD took around 100 hours to make so if you are a winning player (basically at any stakes) it's +EV to buy this over building it yourself and it’s not something you can build in a day, sorry. Care was put into all the details and every small thing got attention.

Given your responses to my questions and manner you deal with business/clients I can now see why it has taken you 100 hours to build no surprise there for me.

“RU, if you have some personal problems with the HUD or with me feel free to PM me” so after not answering my main questions you would like to now keep this behind closed doors. Mmm

“I hope I've done a decent job answering some of your concerns.”

For sure you haven’t, I think you may need to brush up on your people skills and again it’s a price issue???

I guess I'm glad you find me elegant? I think there must be some language issues going on here.
I'm sorry I wasn't clear to the point of being clear about something completely different. From your response so far it sounds like english isn't your first language--this can be a common problem on public forums--so it can hard to communicate in such situations.

All i meant was that if you don't use the HUD or don't use the information then obv you won't gain from it other than some utility from having something fancy. Same thing if you buy an iphone and don't use any apps or the internet and just use it as a phone--at that point all you got was something shiney (which for some people is still worth it).
Seems you misunderstood. This was a tongue-in cheek comment regarding your statement that you could build a better HUD in a day (which is obviously false). Again likely we are facing a language barrier so I know sarcasm can be difficult to understand but the stament was meant to be a light jest directed toward you to point out the absurdity of your statement.
You wrote a lot of really hard to understand stuff so it seemed silly to respond to each point individually. Given the language barrier this makes more sense--for me you sounded overall very angry and not very clear, but since you are having some troubles with English I'd be happy to go through your posts in more detail if you really want help with these matters. But as a non HUSNG non Hold'em player chances are you probably don't really need help but are curious, hence my attempts to give some clear bullet points.

As for the pricing I addressed this when I brought up the issues of how much value it gives and how much time it took to make--again it seems you did not fully understand my posts. Overall I have had no complaints from customers who actually purchased it that it was not worth the money and instead have heard that they have already earned enough equity to pay for the HUD with the extra adjustments they have been able to make. Perhaps you did not understand this because you don't play HUSNGs and so don't know the value of some of these adjustments? When blinds get very low every small equity edge translates to a decent jump in $, so being able to adjust quickly and effectively is really a huge deal.

Thank you, I'm glad you understand the time and effort it takes to build such an advanced HUD and the care that goes into putting out information and taking care of customer service and support.

Glad to hear at least this was understood despite our language barrier.

Again it sounds like our language barrier hurt our communication to me it sounded like you were personally offended or had some personal problems with me, and so I encouraged you to reply to me personally in that case. However it seems I misunderstood the tone of your posts. As you can see I am also happy answering questions here, I just didn't want to clutter the thread with personal stuff.
Sorry I know communicating in a foreign language can be difficult, I hope this clears up some of your concerns--unfortunately I'm worried that the language barrier will persist and there's really not much I can do about it.

In any case, thanks again for your comments Again, feel free to PM me or post here further if you have any more questions.

OK given your response now this it what i am going to do now,

I am going to build 2 versions of this hud 1st one will be the same as yours and the 2nd one will be better, specifically for HU SnGs and the 2 of them will be done with in 48 hours and then i am going to give it away free to anyone that wants it.

you have pissed me off with your bull **** reply's and still avoiding my questions so now we will see who is the smartest shall we. GL in your new venture.

anyone that wants a hud like this then PM i will give it to you FREE.........

I'm looking forward of you making this happen,
Good luck, Sir !

me to

Really don't understand what you problem is... you came on attacking me on a very personal level and trolling despite admitting to not playing HUSNGs or even Hold'em. I try to respond to your claims in a serious and kind way despite your tone and you just attack me further.

But either way gl with your knockoff.

I don't think anybody expects to auto-improve after buying this hud. But nobody expects to auto-improve after watching videos or getting coaching. It's purely down to hard-work on a personal level in how you implement the knowledge you've gained from videos/coaching; and the HUD is the same, you will only gain value if you study it, and use it to its full potential.

The other thing is that it took loads of hours to create so it does justify the price on that alone, IMO. There is also a lot of high stakes regs backing this HUD up and being positive about it.

People should be sensible when it comes to investing $ into something, but it's not for the world to sit back and educate everyone. If your going to buy something on a whim and not put in the time to use it to its full potential and thus get maximum value, then it's your own fault, period.

I've still not purchased the HUD, but it looks great from what I've seen and when i move up i'm going to invest in it.

ty for the kind words paddy

I agree completely and its nice to hear it from someone else because I'm always worried that I sound biased (because obviously I am and not much I can do about it )

Yea i mean, I considered making the same hud on my own too, but all you need is like an hourly of $20 to realize it would be a waste of time... I dunno about it taking 100 hours to make this though. Is that really possible??

and RU18, you know what I do when I find something overpriced and totally not worth it? I STFU and don't buy it!

+1

That's not really a valid point. If someone sells a product that sucks, it doesn't matter how much time the person has invested in creating it. On the other hand if a genius creates an awesome product in one day, it can be worth quite some money. In the end it's all about supply and demand.

The reasons for that are probably more complicated (Mers newest video should give some insights), but the HUD being really good is likely a key factor.

+1

Me too.