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10-04-2010 , 09:38 AM
pot is 960 and we have 930 left; if we check and he jams we need 33% equity
if we openjam and he calls we need very little fold equity given that against anything but flushes/KdKx/AxKd/KdQx we still got 25% equity; he can also call worse yes
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10-04-2010 , 10:21 AM
Holy melony, I made a giant noob mistake in my calcs. Thnx for your time!
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10-04-2010 , 10:24 AM
your betsizing is a bit weird though, given that you have exactly one potbet left on the turn and dont know what to do
basically, you should try and focus to either have 2 streets of value to go for or 3 streets; this is mainly what you can do preflop, though also betsizing on flop is important for this

not saying preflop is bad, though you shouldn't be too fixated on villain's openingsize to make your 3bet if you ask me, just know where you wanna go with the hand postflop and adjust your sizing accordingly; having 1 full potbet left here is just weird in general
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10-04-2010 , 10:41 AM
That's a concept that popped up in my mind a couple of times already but I never really thought about it. Thnx for writing it out, this will definitely improve my game.

With JJ I generally want to get all in by the turn so 320 on the flop, shove turn is better I think.
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10-04-2010 , 12:15 PM
is there a big difference in play between the 11$ and 23$ level(turbos)?
What's a sufficient sample size to evaluate my play?
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10-04-2010 , 12:25 PM
I am interested in hearing what limit you guys think I should be playing at. I play at 25NL/50NL 6max NLHE generally, and I'm starting to get into HUSNGs. I have played 45 games at $6 HUSNG and have a 12% ROI; I know it's a ridiculously small sample, but I don't know where I should be playing at.

When I moved up in NL 6max, it was always a matter of bankroll, so moving up kind of worked itself out. But I have plenty of bankroll now, I just don't know how my skills as a winning 50NL 6max player will translate into HUSNGs.
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10-04-2010 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by billtimbob
I am interested in hearing what limit you guys think I should be playing at. I play at 25NL/50NL 6max NLHE generally, and I'm starting to get into HUSNGs. I have played 45 games at $6 HUSNG and have a 12% ROI; I know it's a ridiculously small sample, but I don't know where I should be playing at.

When I moved up in NL 6max, it was always a matter of bankroll, so moving up kind of worked itself out. But I have plenty of bankroll now, I just don't know how my skills as a winning 50NL 6max player will translate into HUSNGs.
You should play more games at the 6.25$ level and get a husng.com subscription.I understand you have a big bankroll so if i were you i would get some hand reviews and even a coach tbh since i assume you will like to climb the levels pretty fast.
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10-04-2010 , 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by billtimbob
I am interested in hearing what limit you guys think I should be playing at. I play at 25NL/50NL 6max NLHE generally, and I'm starting to get into HUSNGs. I have played 45 games at $6 HUSNG and have a 12% ROI; I know it's a ridiculously small sample, but I don't know where I should be playing at.

When I moved up in NL 6max, it was always a matter of bankroll, so moving up kind of worked itself out. But I have plenty of bankroll now, I just don't know how my skills as a winning 50NL 6max player will translate into HUSNGs.
Here's what I'm doing: I'm giving myself a separate HU BR - basically I'm pretending that my BR is $100. From here I'm using a 15-20 rule, so moving up when I have 20 buyins at the next level, and moving down when I have 15. I'm playing 5's right now, and when I hit $100 in total winnings (200 total in my imaginary BR) I'll take a 5BI shot at the 10's. Just move up and down as your winnings dictate. As a winning 50nl player, you might want to be a bit more aggressive with your BRM though and start taking shots at 10's sooner rather than later (supposedly the games aren't much tougher).

But fwiw, I'm a really un-talented (but hard working!) poker player and have had a hell of a time learning HU. Your mileage may vary. Move up as soon as you feel ready, I suppose.
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10-04-2010 , 02:41 PM
I have been playing $20 husngs at ipoker w/ 5-7% roi. I just subscribed to husng.com could you please give me some kind of advice what videos I should start watching?

EDIT Forgot to say that I'm playing turbos

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10-04-2010 , 03:16 PM
I think you should watch primordialAA's hu from scratch + any videos from cog dissonance,hookie or rypac.Actually i think every video from stakes 50$ and lower are good to watch.
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10-04-2010 , 07:56 PM
Right now, I'm only playing at 1 table, but I've thought if it was time to move to play 2 tables at a time?

I've played about 150 games of the 30$ reg speed with an ROI of 9%.
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10-04-2010 , 08:36 PM
I still only single table unless it is against the same opponent. However, you could try dropping down to say 5's or 10's and two table 1-time to see how you fare and feel about it. General consensus is that it will hinder your growth in the long run but you can increase your winnings. If you never want out of the 30's and money right now is more important to you, go for it. Longterm, I would suggest don't cash out until you are playing 100s.
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10-04-2010 , 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by billtimbob
I am interested in hearing what limit you guys think I should be playing at. I play at 25NL/50NL 6max NLHE generally, and I'm starting to get into HUSNGs. I have played 45 games at $6 HUSNG and have a 12% ROI; I know it's a ridiculously small sample, but I don't know where I should be playing at.

When I moved up in NL 6max, it was always a matter of bankroll, so moving up kind of worked itself out. But I have plenty of bankroll now, I just don't know how my skills as a winning 50NL 6max player will translate into HUSNGs.
I'm confused--you were playing $25/$50 blinds or you were playing $50 buy-in NL (50NL)?
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10-04-2010 , 10:18 PM
Don't want to make this a beat post, but I'm going mental. Over the last 260 games I'm running 31 buyins under ev. It seems like alot for such a small sample. Is this standard, kind of extreme, is allin ev meaningless? This is at full tilt reg. speeds.

thanks
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10-04-2010 , 11:56 PM
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Don't want to make this a beat post, but I'm going mental. Over the last 260 games I'm running 31 buyins under ev. It seems like alot for such a small sample. Is this standard, kind of extreme, is allin ev meaningless? This is at full tilt reg. speeds.

thanks
It happens all the time in the heads up sng world but isn't something common that you will likely experience often.

The all in ev is a good indicator of how you are running but there are many other aspects that are important and not measured in HEM or any luck measuring application that I know of.

My advice would be to play more games and try to avoid tilting (yea, so simple, right?). It's tough not to constantly stare at your all in luck and it can be obsessive for some, but it really can't be healthy to look at those results or your regular results so often (particularly overall results, you'll just feel so unhappy with seeing so many losses in the short term... sessions, days and even weeks are bad to look at, try to look at monthly, 1000 game samples, yearly, etc. type samples most of the time).
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10-05-2010 , 04:50 AM
is there any good post about check raising? I checked the FAQ but I don't think there is one specifically on this unless I missed it
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10-05-2010 , 06:32 AM
I was trying to be more aggro but I'm still not very good to pick up good spots for it:

No particular reads on villain - he raised almost every button 3x and also raised a couple of my limps. Post flop it was still quite early to get particular reads.


Full Tilt Poker $5 + $0.25 Heads Up No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

BB: t1540 77 BBs
Hero (BTN/SB): t1460 73 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with K J
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t40

Flop: (t120) 8 T Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t60, BB calls t60

Turn: (t240) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (t240) 7 (2 players)
BB bets t140, Hero raises to t360, BB raises to t1420 all in, Hero folds

I cbet bcos of the draw and he called me. At that point I thought he might be on a straight draw, when the spade came up on turn I checked behind but then thought he was betting some low pair Tx, 8x, 7x or a missed draw. Thought I might scare him off with a raise. Is this wrong? Even if not, is it too small?



Full Tilt Poker $5 + $0.25 Heads Up No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

BTN/SB: t1920 96 BBs
Hero (BB): t1080 54 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with 9 8
BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero calls t40

Flop: (t120) 9 2 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t80, Hero raises to t220, BTN/SB calls t140

Turn: (t560) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets t800 all in, BTN/SB folds


does this one make any sense how I raised then jammed?
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10-05-2010 , 07:31 AM
fold river on hand 1
don't get why you're jamming in hand 2 tbh,what do you expect him to call with that you beat?
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10-05-2010 , 08:00 AM
A5 ?

you're right
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10-05-2010 , 08:54 AM
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is there any good post about check raising? I checked the FAQ but I don't think there is one specifically on this unless I missed it
chicagory post about playing oop.
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10-05-2010 , 08:57 AM
ohh i see anyone have removed it from the sickys !?
its still in the HU cash faq???
wired.

dboy23's Playing OOP in HUSNGs
http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/show...92&an=0&page=0
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10-05-2010 , 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by coke
I think you should watch primordialAA's hu from scratch + any videos from cog dissonance,hookie or rypac.Actually i think every video from stakes 50$ and lower are good to watch.
Ok thanks
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10-05-2010 , 09:06 AM
i removed it by just reading like a couple of lines
i think that advice like "In general you don't want to be calling with too much OOP" and "If you choose to call his raise, your decision on the flop is usually going to be check/raise or check/fold." and "opponent limps, and you raise, generally 4x, 4.5x, 5x." are severly outdated and there's not that much value in the topic if you ask me (chicagory agreed with me here)

and using multiple question marks make you look really cool btw
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10-05-2010 , 09:47 AM
thanx for the explain.
when i read about this text again it makes a lot of sense what you said.

do you think i shoult use therese question marks more often?
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10-05-2010 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jacket882
I was trying to be more aggro but I'm still not very good to pick up good spots for it:

No particular reads on villain - he raised almost every button 3x and also raised a couple of my limps. Post flop it was still quite early to get particular reads.


Full Tilt Poker $5 + $0.25 Heads Up No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

BB: t1540 77 BBs
Hero (BTN/SB): t1460 73 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with K J
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t40

Flop: (t120) 8 T Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t60, BB calls t60

Turn: (t240) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (t240) 7 (2 players)
BB bets t140, Hero raises to t360, BB raises to t1420 all in, Hero folds

I cbet bcos of the draw and he called me. At that point I thought he might be on a straight draw, when the spade came up on turn I checked behind but then thought he was betting some low pair Tx, 8x, 7x or a missed draw. Thought I might scare him off with a raise. Is this wrong? Even if not, is it too small?



Full Tilt Poker $5 + $0.25 Heads Up No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

BTN/SB: t1920 96 BBs
Hero (BB): t1080 54 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with 9 8
BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero calls t40

Flop: (t120) 9 2 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t80, Hero raises to t220, BTN/SB calls t140

Turn: (t560) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets t800 all in, BTN/SB folds


does this one make any sense how I raised then jammed?


Hand 1: Might be a good place to double barrel as a semi-bluff? It's a really wet board so maybe not, and we aren't even drawing to the nuts, and he probably calls the turn with any decent spade, and it's hard for him to not have a pair or a gutshot at least here... So actually I guess no, not a great place to double barrel.

Imo, just cbet flop, take the free turn card, and hope he checks the river so we can win a showdown with K high I don't think the river raise is THAT bad, and villains will often stab here after you cbet and check the turn, so I think we can expect to take it away some percentage of the time. But it's just really easy for him to have a decent hand that he won't fold here, and I think that's what happened.


Hand 2: I think I like the flop check raise. We expect him to cbet a lot, but if he checks behind we don't mind all that much either. Not sure if check/call is better than check/raise.... When we raise, he may fold his overcards or mid/bottom pairs that we could get more value out of when he double barrels the turn.

I think shoving the turn is pretty horrendous. Unless he thinks we're an aggro monkey, he's never calling with less than a 9, and pretty much any 9 he calls with beats us. I think as played I lead the turn for a little over 1/2 pot.

I think my preferred line would be check/call flop, check/call turn, leading out river if he checked behind turn but check/calling if he bet it.

Maybe I'm losing value here, but I like taking a more passive line in a situation like this (oop, fairly strong made hand on a dry board). We save ourselves chips when we're way behind, and more importantly we get to see how he plays some hands - whether he double/triple barrels, etc.
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