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Old 06-14-2012, 04:26 PM   #3571
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ainec = and it's not even close
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:30 PM   #3572
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http://www.fpppro.com/pokerstars-rakeback.php

It's a little complicated to work out, but say you are playing the $15s, you will start off with ~17% rb, rising to ~20% after 224 games, if you get ~900 games/month you'll be getting ~25% rb. it continues to go up way higher, but lots of volume or higher stakes required.

rake is 4.23% at the $15s, so assuming you play >30/day to hit goldstar your effective rake would be 3.17% as opposed to your current 2% effective.

So I am not at all sure but I think this makes you lose 1.17% roi. I am confused because you don't win your opponents rakeback when you win, but you do win rake they didn't pay. too stupid to think if this matters! also not sure if this is right, but say you have a 10% roi, that means you win 1% of a buyin each game. so if you can play an extra 2 games / day on stars due to getting action, it should make up for the extra rake%.


Of course if you're playing st/hypers it's lol not close, since ipoker still has 5% for those too against Stars already 2% (above $7s) before rakeback.

edit: On Stars you generally make vip level within the month or not at all. Supernova is basically hitting Platinum for a year straight (little more)
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Old 06-14-2012, 05:32 PM   #3573
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What is the best way to learn/ work hard to get better? I am willing to start off on the HYPERS soon but don't think the $1,50 are a good way to start on, cause off the skill level and the lots oplayers ho stack off very liight?

But I am willing to work hard on my game, do got a membership on HUSNG.com have read the e-book but, need to read it again cause I didn't get it well cause english isn't my native language.

Maybe you guys have got a good tip.

Here is a little info of me as a player, so maybe you can give me some personal advice?
I am a aggro player who plays more on feeling, do use a HUD but dont work with the stats. I do got problems with thinking in ranges, there is where I do got a big leak. I have a big EGO, and willing to fight for every hand. Dont wonna give up big pots, think I am better as my villain even when I am not.Quick decissions, LOOSE OOP.

Hope you give me a good advice, this notes are all based on my TURBO HU SnG games.
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Old 06-14-2012, 07:22 PM   #3574
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hey dave, thanks for you post and link.



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So I am not at all sure but I think this makes you lose 1.17% roi. I am confused because you don't win your opponents rakeback when you win, but you do win rake they didn't pay. too stupid to think if this matters! also not sure if this is right, but say you have a 10% roi, that means you win 1% of a buyin each game. so if you can play an extra 2 games / day on stars due to getting action, it should make up for the extra rake%.
cant comment on that part of your post because im too tired right now and it does requier some thinking but you almost convinced me that its not much of a difference. will think it through tommorow morning
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Old 06-15-2012, 04:33 AM   #3575
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What is the best way to learn/ work hard to get better? I am willing to start off on the HYPERS soon but don't think the $1,50 are a good way to start on, cause off the skill level and the lots oplayers ho stack off very liight?

But I am willing to work hard on my game, do got a membership on HUSNG.com have read the e-book but, need to read it again cause I didn't get it well cause english isn't my native language.

Maybe you guys have got a good tip.

Here is a little info of me as a player, so maybe you can give me some personal advice?
I am a aggro player who plays more on feeling, do use a HUD but dont work with the stats. I do got problems with thinking in ranges, there is where I do got a big leak. I have a big EGO, and willing to fight for every hand. Dont wonna give up big pots, think I am better as my villain even when I am not.Quick decissions, LOOSE OOP.

Hope you give me a good advice, this notes are all based on my TURBO HU SnG games.

Disclaimer: I am a fish.

Start at the $1.50 until you get the hang of it and aren't losing money, then move up to $3.50 as the rake is 25% lower.
Work on the stats, simple things at first such as if villain opens 80%, you can mix in a few 3bet bluffs, if villain opens wide and cbets almost 100% then you can start check raise bluffing on dry boards such as A26 or K83, etc
I can't think in ranges really, it will probably get easier as you improve and come naturally I guess
Don't try and win every pot
Stop and think about each decision instead of button mashing like you're playing Mortal Kombat. Count to 5 if you have to. Try and think why villain checked/raised/bet before acting. Is this a good spot for villain to check raise? Is it likely I'll be facing a jam if I raise here? Will villain stab turn if I don't cbet? Do I think I am ahead or behind?
Tighten up OOP. I would suggest defending the top ~40% of hands from out of position until you get better. You can enter this range into pokerstove/equilab/etc to see what it looks like.

Some other random advice:
3bet jam any PP 22-TT
shove the lower PPs over a limp
open jam 22-55 from the button at any stack depth as they are hard to play post flop. Once you get better you can start minraise-calling 55 and maybe 44
cbet! CBET! CBET!
If you aren't sure whether to cbet or not, cbet.
higher turn cards are generally good to fire a second barrel on (as long as draws don't come in, the board isn't too wet...)

I hope this helps, some of this advice may not be entirely correct though as I'm still getting there myself.
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Old 06-15-2012, 04:37 AM   #3576
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Party HU sng $11-$55. 10% rake...unbeatable?
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Old 06-15-2012, 05:16 AM   #3577
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I would say so.

edit: Skaiwalkurrr could probably manage 1-2% ROI at that level I would think
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Old 06-16-2012, 12:30 PM   #3578
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Is it just me or do poeple hit backdoor flushes/straights way too often on PS Hu?
I wrote all my all ins down and I lost 6 out of 14 times with AA or KK against a lower pair and 4 times of them against a backdoor flush and 2 backdoor straight. I gues its just bad luck but still kinda weird. Not to mention the most tilting thing ever
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Old 06-16-2012, 12:40 PM   #3579
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Old 06-17-2012, 02:56 AM   #3580
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Disclaimer: I am a fish.

Start at the $1.50 until you get the hang of it and aren't losing money, then move up to $3.50 as the rake is 25% lower.
Work on the stats, simple things at first such as if villain opens 80%, you can mix in a few 3bet bluffs, if villain opens wide and cbets almost 100% then you can start check raise bluffing on dry boards such as A26 or K83, etc
I can't think in ranges really, it will probably get easier as you improve and come naturally I guess
Don't try and win every pot
Stop and think about each decision instead of button mashing like you're playing Mortal Kombat. Count to 5 if you have to. Try and think why villain checked/raised/bet before acting. Is this a good spot for villain to check raise? Is it likely I'll be facing a jam if I raise here? Will villain stab turn if I don't cbet? Do I think I am ahead or behind?
Tighten up OOP. I would suggest defending the top ~40% of hands from out of position until you get better. You can enter this range into pokerstove/equilab/etc to see what it looks like.

Some other random advice:
3bet jam any PP 22-TT
shove the lower PPs over a limp
open jam 22-55 from the button at any stack depth as they are hard to play post flop. Once you get better you can start minraise-calling 55 and maybe 44
cbet! CBET! CBET!
If you aren't sure whether to cbet or not, cbet.
higher turn cards are generally good to fire a second barrel on (as long as draws don't come in, the board isn't too wet...)

I hope this helps, some of this advice may not be entirely correct though as I'm still getting there myself.
Wow Thanks a lot. I will certainly work with this, and are going to read more on the forum. Thanks alot
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Old 06-17-2012, 04:39 AM   #3581
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Wow Thanks a lot. I will certainly work with this, and are going to read more on the forum. Thanks alot
Please keep the following in mind: Benjamin has mixed your basic strategy (the strategy you use vs unknown) with the strategy against specific opponents in some parts of his post.

Also, you should try to understand *why* you chose a certain action. Otherwise you will have a very hard time with adjusting to your opponents. If you do not know why you should 3bet jam 22-TT unless of folding / calling, and you use this as your deftault play, how should you be able to adjust? In order to get this knowledge you will have lots of work to do while not being on the table and i am especially referring to the mathematical part now.

Last but not least: you really need to learn how to think in ranges. If you keep on playing your hand only that's not gonna bring you very far.
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Old 06-17-2012, 05:19 AM   #3582
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Wow Thanks a lot. I will certainly work with this, and are going to read more on the forum. Thanks alot
No problem, that's what the forum is for.

Also with the above post keep in mind that I am beginner so there may be some errors in the above. I think I've got it though
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Old 06-20-2012, 03:03 PM   #3583
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What happens if I join euro and British pound games on stars on my account in dollars? Can I use it to for example play 1.5 pound sngs instead of moving from 1.5$ to 3.5$ as it's a smaller step and easier ón the roll?
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Old 06-20-2012, 04:52 PM   #3584
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indeed you can, there's a couple of checkboxes in the client to enable so it'll do the currency conversion automatically, or you can make a dual-balance account and just send some of your roll into £
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Old 06-20-2012, 05:50 PM   #3585
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Hi HUSNG! I'm a relatively new poker player (well, "old new" since I'm nearly 48 ). I've just recently found an absolute addiction to HUSNGs and am probably going to spend quite a bit of time in here trying to soak up the knowledge in this forum.

In the mean time I've actually played a few games...a grand total of 26 HUSNG games now...lol I've run into some bad beats (my favorite was getting Villain ai AA against T3o and then watching 33x come out on the flop ). I certainly understand such is poker and I'm not worried about it and I plan to start posting hands to work on my game.

My question is, when I look at my results I have this wonderfully looking "Net Adjusted" line that shows me up almost 5 buy ins. My actual results is down 3 buy ins. My question is should I care? Ignoring sample size (I realize NONE of this is meaningful with so few games) what high level numbers should I be looking at? Or is it only ROI, since that is "real"?

Again, I realize the devil's in the details and ultimately I need to make sure my game is as good as I can make it and is always progressing - so I'm not trying to substitute for that. Just trying to get a sense of what big picture stats I should be looking at.

Thanks.
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