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10-09-2011, 11:23 AM
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journeyman
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Re: **** Beginner's and Low Content Questions Thread****
I've got an 80$ roll and i'd like to run it up fairly quickly. I am a winning player. What BR management should I use (play the 1.50s, 3.50s, or 7s on stars?).
4mans, 2mans, or those 16/32 man games?
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10-09-2011, 01:30 PM
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#2747
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 3,712
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Re: **** Beginner's and Low Content Questions Thread****
Can you reload? If so play 7s, otherwise 3.5s imo
From what I hear 4mans are softer, so you might want to try those
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10-09-2011, 01:31 PM
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#2748
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grinder
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: The Panopticon
Posts: 539
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Re: **** Beginner's and Low Content Questions Thread****
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Originally Posted by reivas
I wonder how you should play like smaller pp facing a 3bet when you are relativly deep.
In this example it wasn't our first match, he had 3bet me 21%(9/42), i pushed cause i'm gonna hate almost every flop and most of his range has like 50% equity. But is this maybe too deep to push the smaller pp? what should you do, and how does 3betfrequency change your action? Different actions with different pp probably?
PokerStars - $14.39+$0.61|10/20 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
BB: 1,490.00
Hero (SB): 1,510.00
Hero posts SB 10.00, BB posts BB 20.00
Pre Flop: (30.00) Hero has 6  6
Hero raises to 60.00, BB raises to 160.00, Hero raises to 1,510.00 and is all-in, BB calls 1,330.00 and is all-in
Flop: (2980.00, 2 players) K  J  Q
Turn: (2980.00, 2 players) 9
River: (2980.00, 2 players) 9 
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My default is to shove over any 3bet with all non-premium pps at any stack depth in the $15 and $30 turbos I play vs a random. This is not necessarily the most +EV way to play the hand, but it is still +EV nevertheless. My reasoning is that a) I have a good amount of FE for immediate profit vs most players, b) I don't mind flipping with what is usually the best hand, but most importantly c) it can finish the match quickly and I can fire up another game, which is better for hourly rate. Essentially I think hourly is more important than ROI, so even slightly +EV gambles should be taken.
Thoughts?
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10-09-2011, 02:05 PM
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#2749
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2+2 chess champion
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Estonia
Posts: 465
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Re: **** Beginner's and Low Content Questions Thread****
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Originally Posted by ready 2 win
Can you reload? If so play 7s, otherwise 3.5s imo
From what I hear 4mans are softer, so you might want to try those
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4-mans are softer, but with bigger variance.
have you ever played husng before? if not, try reg/turbo and 3,5 (or even 1,5). later you can move higher as fast as you want. i would suggest for a beginner to have atleast 20bi (turbos)
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10-09-2011, 03:10 PM
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#2750
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journeyman
Join Date: May 2009
Location: iso-raising on Zynga
Posts: 285
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Re: **** Beginner's and Low Content Questions Thread****
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Originally Posted by PlzDon'tCall
I've got an 80$ roll and i'd like to run it up fairly quickly. I am a winning player. What BR management should I use (play the 1.50s, 3.50s, or 7s on stars?).
4mans, 2mans, or those 16/32 man games?
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if you're a winning player at husngs, then 4mans at those stakes is definitely the way to go in order to build your bankroll quickly. Larger MTTs definitely not worth it (especially winner takes all - what kind of stupid idea is that) - they tend to be too top heavy (so coming 3rd or 4th is little better than winning a 4man while you had to play an extra game to get there).
If you're a winning player at other games and new to husngs, then just stick to the lowest game possible until you've really nailed how to beat the fish. Once past that point you should move up quickly as you won't meet 'regs' until at least $15 or $30 games.
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10-09-2011, 04:08 PM
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#2751
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journeyman
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 254
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Re: **** Beginner's and Low Content Questions Thread****
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Originally Posted by ready 2 win
Can you reload? If so play 7s, otherwise 3.5s imo
From what I hear 4mans are softer, so you might want to try those
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cool, thanks. And no, I won't reload, this is a challenge I set myself to run a tiny bankroll up, since i've run into a lot of problems with tilt.
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10-09-2011, 04:09 PM
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#2752
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journeyman
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 254
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Re: **** Beginner's and Low Content Questions Thread****
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Originally Posted by Meteoric
if you're a winning player at husngs, then 4mans at those stakes is definitely the way to go in order to build your bankroll quickly. Larger MTTs definitely not worth it (especially winner takes all - what kind of stupid idea is that) - they tend to be too top heavy (so coming 3rd or 4th is little better than winning a 4man while you had to play an extra game to get there).
If you're a winning player at other games and new to husngs, then just stick to the lowest game possible until you've really nailed how to beat the fish. Once past that point you should move up quickly as you won't meet 'regs' until at least $15 or $30 games.
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I dable with 6max, but the micro stakes are just so slow to be profitable i find.
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10-09-2011, 04:12 PM
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#2753
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old hand
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,396
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Re: **** Beginner's and Low Content Questions Thread****
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Originally Posted by PlzDon'tCall
I've got an 80$ roll and i'd like to run it up fairly quickly. I am a winning player. What BR management should I use (play the 1.50s, 3.50s, or 7s on stars?).
4mans, 2mans, or those 16/32 man games?
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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/18...ah-brm-884641/
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10-09-2011, 05:14 PM
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#2754
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journeyman
Join Date: May 2009
Location: iso-raising on Zynga
Posts: 285
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Re: **** Beginner's and Low Content Questions Thread****
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Originally Posted by PlzDon'tCall
I dable with 6max, but the micro stakes are just so slow to be profitable i find.
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husngs (and hu cash) is so different to 6max that I'd really recommend playing a lot at lowest stakes until you've seen why it's so different. In a nutshell, relative to 6max, HU is very loose, very bluffy, and entirely opponent dependent. You'll take lines that are suicidal in 6max, purely because you've figured out that your opponent is so one dimensional. Equally, if you remain unadaptive, you'll get rolled over (but not at the stakes you mentioned - everyone is either a maniac, nit or a calling station - rarely do they ever think what kind of player you are!).
Quote:
Originally Posted by PlzDon'tCall
I've got an 80$ roll and i'd like to run it up fairly quickly. I am a winning player. What BR management should I use (play the 1.50s, 3.50s, or 7s on stars?).
4mans, 2mans, or those 16/32 man games?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jakester1288
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and this;
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/18...estion-144437/
which basically calculates that you should 4man at around the 40buyin point, but single game once you're close to the move-up point (60 buyins) until you've got to the 80 buyin point to actually move up - admittedly this sounds odd to me (partly because it suggests a 40 buyin BRM which imo is too nitty - 20 is fine I reckon) because personally I feel that if you can beat a level with confidence, then 4mans has fantastic hourly with low risk, which would mean that 4mans wouldn't be so great if you've only just moved up (but once you've got going and want to shoot for the next stakes up, then 4mans will get you there quicker). Still, Skates did the maths, and there's no way I'm going to say I know better than him (because ldo I don't - it's Skates ffs!)
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10-09-2011, 07:53 PM
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#2755
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journeyman
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 254
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Re: **** Beginner's and Low Content Questions Thread****
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Originally Posted by Meteoric
husngs (and hu cash) is so different to 6max that I'd really recommend playing a lot at lowest stakes until you've seen why it's so different. In a nutshell, relative to 6max, HU is very loose, very bluffy, and entirely opponent dependent. You'll take lines that are suicidal in 6max, purely because you've figured out that your opponent is so one dimensional. Equally, if you remain unadaptive, you'll get rolled over (but not at the stakes you mentioned - everyone is either a maniac, nit or a calling station - rarely do they ever think what kind of player you are!).
and this;
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/18...estion-144437/
which basically calculates that you should 4man at around the 40buyin point, but single game once you're close to the move-up point (60 buyins) until you've got to the 80 buyin point to actually move up - admittedly this sounds odd to me (partly because it suggests a 40 buyin BRM which imo is too nitty - 20 is fine I reckon) because personally I feel that if you can beat a level with confidence, then 4mans has fantastic hourly with low risk, which would mean that 4mans wouldn't be so great if you've only just moved up (but once you've got going and want to shoot for the next stakes up, then 4mans will get you there quicker). Still, Skates did the maths, and there's no way I'm going to say I know better than him (because ldo I don't - it's Skates ffs!)
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cool, thanks for the links. And I'm a fish at 6max, i just play it for fun. My "specialty" (lol) is def. HUSNGs.
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10-11-2011, 07:30 AM
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#2756
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centurion
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wolverhampton, UK
Posts: 185
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New to HUSNG, Help Please!
Hi HUSNG Community,
I am new to HUSNG and want to have a real go at becoming a good winning player at these. My games of choice are the $3.50 HUSNG on pokerstars and I have played 55 since starting again on Sunday 6th and I have an ROI of 10.4%.
The real question I want answering are:
- Tips on how to improve
- Videos/Articles to Watch/Read
- What Should I have on my HUD
- What should I be looking for on my HUD
- What is a good sample Size
- What is a good ROI
- How many should I be able to play in an hour (Atm there taking me just over 9 minutes to complete)
- Should I multi table, or is that too difficult
Any advice or pointer will be greatly appreciated
Many Thanks
Jak
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10-11-2011, 08:03 AM
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#2757
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centurion
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wolverhampton, UK
Posts: 185
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Re: **** Beginner's and Low Content Questions Thread****
Hi HUSNG Community,
I still new to the forums so if i do something wrong please advise and i apologise in advance.
I am new to HUSNG and want to have a real go at becoming a good winning player at these. My games of choice are the $3.50 HUSNG on pokerstars and I have played 55 since starting again on Sunday 6th and I have an ROI of 10.4%.
The real question I want answering are:
- Tips on how to improve
- Videos/Articles to Watch/Read
- What Should I have on my HUD
- What should I be looking for on my HUD
- What is a good sample Size
- What is a good ROI
- How many should I be able to play in an hour (Atm there taking me just over 9 minutes to complete)
- Should I multi table, or is that too difficult
Any advice or pointer will be greatly appreciated
Many Thanks
Jak
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10-11-2011, 04:02 PM
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#2758
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journeyman
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 279
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Re: **** Beginner's and Low Content Questions Thread****
Hi I just started playing the hyper turbos 3.5 on stars for fun but i'm trying to get better (I watched a few videos on HUSNG.com) one of my main problems right now is figuring out what to do with my Ax hands OOP in the early levels. When my opponent min raises what should my default be without reads. When i call I miss the flop very often and i am stuck playing a pot OOP if I shove i pick up only a couple chips and when i get called i am miles behind but folding feels weak. 3 betting i found to have some merit but some villains don't have much of a fold to 3bet range.
the other part of my question is what about when my opponent limps, should i raise it to 3x? same problem seems to show up when i get called i am playing a bloated pot oop with a weak hand. so i am assuming that A2 should be just called and AJ suited can raise but where is the cutoff point?
Last edited by benoit1616; 10-11-2011 at 04:08 PM.
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10-12-2011, 01:48 AM
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#2759
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enthusiast
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 57
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Re: **** Beginner's and Low Content Questions Thread****
3rd hand, opponent has pushed all in every hand preflop.
[hand_history]Poker Stars, $1.40 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10804692
SB: 1,540 (77 bb)
Hero (BB): 1,460 (73 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Q  T
SB raises to 1,540 and is all-in, Hero ????
more to the point, what type of range am i calling with if someone's raising all in every hand. And how long do i wait before i can say for sure they're pushing any two cards?
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10-12-2011, 02:13 AM
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old hand
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: regfish
Posts: 1,263
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HUSNG Question
I've noticed that the standard of the $1.50 and $3.50 HUSNG's on PokerStars is very poor and the standard of the $7 is slightly better but still largely poor.
I have a $2.8k roll from a tournament I have just won. Admittedly, I am a losing player overall and am now interested in learning/grinding HUSNG's. I have always felt my biggest edge was in HUSNG's.
I have 410 BI's for the $7 and 190 BI's for the $15. I have never played the $15 and am torn between starting to grind the $7 HUSNG's or the $15.
How hard are the $7 HUSNG's on stars in comparison to the $15?
Any further advice on this matter like would be gratefully appreciated.
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