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10-13-2010, 04:00 PM
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#226
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grinder
Join Date: Jun 2009
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Re: **** Beginner's and Low Content Questions Thread****
it seems that my questions are getting ignored in this thread.
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10-13-2010, 04:10 PM
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#227
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Heads Up SNG Forum
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Re: **** Beginner's and Low Content Questions Thread****
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Originally Posted by manefon
This hand wasn't played by me.. but I'm really interested in your thoughts. Villain's been raising superwide and cbetting 85% of time. Is overbet shoving turn a better play in this spot?
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $20(BB) Replayer
Hero ($1,760)
($1,240)
Dealt to Hero Td Kd
raises to $40, Hero calls $20
FLOP ($80) Ts Qd 3d
Hero checks, bets $80, Hero raises to $240, calls $160
TURN ($560) Ts Qd 3d J s
Hero bets $320, calls $320
RIVER ($1,200) Ts Qd 3d Js 3s
Hero checks, bets $640 (AI), Hero folds
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Quote:
Originally Posted by manefon
it seems that my questions are getting ignored in this thread. 
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Fair enough!
Why did you bet the turn here and what are your reasons for considering an overbet turn shove?
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10-13-2010, 05:45 PM
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#228
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adept
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 982
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Re: **** Beginner's and Low Content Questions Thread****
Not thread worthy but jw if this is stnd/ok:
Villain is vinny ferret and has c/r'd same size ATTcc with 37o or smth before in this game. He seemed more spewy then usual this match
Poker Stars $22+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 2 players
Hero (BTN/SB): t1905 63.50 BBs
BB: t1095 36.50 BBs
Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN/SB with 5  5
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t30
Flop: (t120) 8  4  2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t70, BB raises to t210, Hero calls t140
Turn: (t540) 3 (2 players)
BB bets t300, Hero calls t300
River: (t1140) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks
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10-13-2010, 06:19 PM
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#229
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grinder
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: kaluga
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Re: **** Beginner's and Low Content Questions Thread****
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Originally Posted by ChicagoRy
Fair enough!
Why did you bet the turn here and what are your reasons for considering an overbet turn shove?
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again, I didn't play this hand..and posted it here from another forum.
We have a monster draw + TP .. let's assume that villain's calling range on turn is
xdxd,K9o,K3o,Q8o-2o,J9+,Jc8d,Jc8h,Jc8s,Jd8h,Jd8s,Jh8s,Tc9d,Tc9h,Tc9 s,Td9h
,Td9s,Th9s
Vs this range we have ~52% eq... So, checking is probably fine.. But i don't know, I got a gut feeling that overbet shoving and putting villain in an ackward spot is much better..
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10-13-2010, 06:26 PM
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#230
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grinder
Join Date: Jun 2009
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Re: **** Beginner's and Low Content Questions Thread****
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Originally Posted by newluck2k
Not thread worthy but jw if this is stnd/ok:
Villain is vinny ferret and has c/r'd same size ATTcc with 37o or smth before in this game. He seemed more spewy then usual this match
Poker Stars $22+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 2 players
Hero (BTN/SB): t1905 63.50 BBs
BB: t1095 36.50 BBs
Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN/SB with 5  5
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t30
Flop: (t120) 8  4  2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t70, BB raises to t210, Hero calls t140
Turn: (t540) 3 (2 players)
BB bets t300, Hero calls t300
River: (t1140) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks
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Turning your hand into a bluff and 3bet shoving flop is probably gonna be +EV vs this villain imo. Vs unknown I'm folding flop
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10-13-2010, 08:20 PM
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#231
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Heads Up SNG Forum
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: ColoradoRy
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Re: **** Beginner's and Low Content Questions Thread****
Quote:
Originally Posted by manefon
again, I didn't play this hand..and posted it here from another forum.
We have a monster draw + TP .. let's assume that villain's calling range on turn is
xdxd,K9o,K3o,Q8o-2o,J9+,Jc8d,Jc8h,Jc8s,Jd8h,Jd8s,Jh8s,Tc9d,Tc9h,Tc9 s,Td9h
,Td9s,Th9s
Vs this range we have ~52% eq... So, checking is probably fine.. But i don't know, I got a gut feeling that overbet shoving and putting villain in an ackward spot is much better..
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It looks to me like a lot of the weaker part of his range is going to fold to such a bet.
If all of that range calls a smaller bet, it can make sense to bet again, but I think checking in this spot is probably better, some of those weaker hands are pretty loose flop calls as well and probably less likely than some of the ones that do better against KT here.
I'm curious to see what others think, but I'd advocate a turn check in this spot.
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10-14-2010, 06:15 AM
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#232
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centurion
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 130
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Re: **** Beginner's and Low Content Questions Thread****
Do you think it's better to play @ ipoker on 55% rb or go to pokerstars w/ smaller rb, but more bad players? I'm playing $52.5 atm.
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10-14-2010, 11:40 AM
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#233
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Heads Up SNG Forum
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Re: **** Beginner's and Low Content Questions Thread****
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Originally Posted by Double
Do you think it's better to play @ ipoker on 55% rb or go to pokerstars w/ smaller rb, but more bad players? I'm playing $52.5 atm.
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Are the players on Stars really worse than Ipoker?
What's the rake like on Ipoker, 5% or 10%?
What's your volume look like per month?
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10-14-2010, 11:41 AM
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#234
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: I beat 50NL, do not argue with me!
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Re: **** Beginner's and Low Content Questions Thread****
eurosites are softer in general yes
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10-14-2010, 11:44 AM
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#235
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Heads Up SNG Forum
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Re: **** Beginner's and Low Content Questions Thread****
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Originally Posted by spamz
eurosites are softer in general yes
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Yes, that's what I always assumed, at every level.
The quote said that Stars had "more bad players." I guess that could technically be correct, but they have more good players as well and overall Stars should be tougher.
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10-14-2010, 11:59 AM
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#236
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stranger
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Re: **** Beginner's and Low Content Questions Thread****
Hey guys
just out of curiosity is there much content and strategy to super turbo HUSNG out there??
cheers
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10-14-2010, 12:09 PM
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#237
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Heads Up SNG Forum
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Re: **** Beginner's and Low Content Questions Thread****
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Originally Posted by Big Rig 33
Hey guys
just out of curiosity is there much content and strategy to super turbo HUSNG out there??
cheers
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There is some focused material (hands in this forum, Cog Dissonance and Mersenneary husng.com videos for example) but to truly utilize everything available for super turbos, you'll want to really focus on mid to end game concepts, which you can find in any type of good heads up sng strategy article/video/thread (good place to start would be spamzor's HH reviews and end game thread here on 2p2, it's in the sticky).
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10-14-2010, 12:11 PM
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#238
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centurion
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: €союз
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Re: **** Beginner's and Low Content Questions Thread****
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Originally Posted by ChicagoRy
What's the rake like on Ipoker, 5% or 10%?
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regular, turbo, superturbo = 5%
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10-14-2010, 12:20 PM
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#239
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Heads Up SNG Forum
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Re: **** Beginner's and Low Content Questions Thread****
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Originally Posted by einkillahertz
regular, turbo, superturbo = 5%
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It sounds like you are definitely better off on Ipoker for now. 55% rakeback is better than everything you can get on PokerStars aside from SuperNovaElite (not really possible at 50s).
Ipoker should give you an easier opponent on average and a better rake return.
Now, if you find yourself having to wait 30 minutes for games or something crazy, then PokerStars might become your best option. The way Stars and FTP have gobbled up traffic (even more so for Stars it seems), that's beginning to look realistic at many rooms when you reach the $50 or $100 levels.
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10-14-2010, 12:37 PM
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#240
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adept
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: ck/shoving turn in 3b pots
Posts: 814
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Re: **** Beginner's and Low Content Questions Thread****
Villain is rather aggro but not calling too much oop. First flop c/r.
Should I fold turn?
Full Tilt Poker $11 + $0.50 Heads Up No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t20/t40 Blinds - 2 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked
BB: t1715 42.88 BBs
Hero (BTN/SB): t1285 32.12 BBs
Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is BTN/SB with A  A
Hero raises to t80, BB calls t40
Flop: (t160) K  3  K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t80, BB raises to t160, Hero calls t80
Turn: (t480) 2 (2 players)
BB bets t200, Hero calls t200
River: (t880) 5 (2 players)
BB bets t1275 all in, Hero folds
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