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spamz · 10-08-2010, 06:47 PM

dont lead if you don't know what to do here

Doggg · 10-08-2010, 10:24 PM

I lead out with the intention of shoving over a 3bet, which is what I did.

Maybe I'm being results-oriented, but I felt stupid when opp turned over kj and no saving heart came.

i'm flipping with any king, and ahead of str8t and flush draws, but this villian didn't seem the type to push with draws, so upon re-evaluation, I'm ahead of nothing that he would want to get his whole stack in with. I'm just flipping, with not alot of fold equity.

The flop just seems so pretty.

A fold just doesn't seem right. I have a strong draw and top pair.

Neither does a shove. I'm clearly up against the top of opp's range. ak, k10, kj, kq, all very possible holdings.

I'm confused.

spamz · 10-08-2010, 10:26 PM

you shouldnt be leading too much without a very consistent gameplan behind it imo

Doggg · 10-08-2010, 10:41 PM

You are def. right.

I do lead alot. I lead from the bb with mp+ and strong draws vs most opps.

I wonder what you mean by gameplan, though?

I lead alot, I guess, in order to establish an image that I can take advantage of later in the match when I actually have the str8t and pot the river, and villian thinks of all of those dozens of semibluffs and stabs I've being jabbing him with, and so decides to pay me off with 2 pair. I guess this is just a general strategy.

A gameplan, against a tight nit, would be to stab and stab until he bleeds to death from a multitude of lacerations, or force him to widen his calling range, and catch him with the nuts.

So...

Why would I want to flip with the nit...

It's not part of my gameplan.

Is that kinda an example of what you are saying?

rocaerix · 10-09-2010, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Doggg

I do lead alot. I lead from the bb with mp+ and strong draws vs most opps.

Probably not at all what spamz is getting at, but how much and when are you c/r if all your strong hands you are leading? This is the sort of spot where I'd check / raise / call since if you are 3B you're probably flipping anyway but you get more value from his c/bets and more FE with c/r than a donk. Also allows you to c/r monsters and get called down lighter rather than having to lead with them.

Related question. If you lead here and he just flats what's your plan on a brick turn? You're equity has dropped a lot vs top pair better kicker and you still have a lot of your stack behind.

Doggg · 10-09-2010, 03:19 AM

Not c/r'ng is a major leak in my game.

I just bet bet bet.

Your post was really helpful, roca.

Aha! helpful.

Much

to spamz too, for dealing with all of us newbie fishies.

Kraft · 10-09-2010, 01:06 PM

I can't send a pm yet.Will i be able to do that if i receive one from someone?

spamz · 10-09-2010, 01:06 PM

i think you need a certain post amount, 50 or so

Kraft · 10-09-2010, 01:10 PM

ok,thanks

ProphetofProfit · 10-09-2010, 02:39 PM

Evening all.

I am going to set myself a challenge of playing x amount of $10 HU SnG's and achieving a y% ROI or quitting poker for good. I've got the tools to beat HU (HEM, Pokerstove, Books, DC membership, Hand charts) and I'm determined to prove to myself that I can beat the game for a respectable hourly rate. And if I can't I'll graciously accept defeat and move on. Before I get started, I have some questions to ask so I can get some information on how to structure this. My SnG history is only 120 games of $5 HU at 11% ROI so far, but I don't want to be grinding the $5's because the money isn't good.

Q1. How many games should I play?

I was thinking of a 1000 because it gives me a 95% confidence interval of my win rate +/- 3.1% Once I hit 1000 games I'll have a good idea of my performance.

Q2. What ROI should I aim for?

I'll be playing two tables of FT regular speed games. I think these take about 10 minutes on average to finish, so I'm looking at about 12 games an hour. At 10% ROI this is +$12/hr, which I'll be content with as it's more than I'll get working.

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I'll also have to set a time limit to complete the 1000 games. At 12 an hour, I think a month is a suitable deadline. If the number of games per hour changes this will also have to change. Thinking about it, 1000 games at 10% ROI nets me $1000, which is not great for a months work, but I'll have the opportunity to move up once the challenge is finished and make a better hourly.

Kraft · 10-09-2010, 02:53 PM

I'm just courious about the books and the DC subscription.As far as i know only Moshman's book focuses on husng play(what other books do you plan on reading?).
And aren't deuces cracked videos for hu cash?Why don't you buy a husng.com subscription?

quinn132 · 10-09-2010, 03:06 PM

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Q2. What ROI should I aim for?

There is very little difference in the player pool between the $5s and $10s so if you are confident your beating the $5s then you should expect almost the same at the $10s

ProphetofProfit · 10-09-2010, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kraft

I'm just courious about the books and the DC subscription.As far as i know only Moshman's book focuses on husng play(what other books do you plan on reading?).
And aren't deuces cracked videos for hu cash?Why don't you buy a husng.com subscription?

The books I were alluding to are ToP, MoP and NLHTAP. Not specific to HU SnGs but should help. Will check out HUSNG.com

Kraft · 10-09-2010, 04:21 PM

Yeah,those books can't hurt.Your post made me think about reading Theory of Poker.
I heard that MoP its a pretty hard read though.

manefon · 10-09-2010, 06:15 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 31.5 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (2 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB (t1510)
Hero (SB) (t1490)

Hero's M: 49.67

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6

, 10

Hero bets t60, BB calls t40

Flop: (t120) 5

, 7

, K

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t80, BB calls t80

Turn: (t280) 9

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t180

Villain is unknown... easy double barrel early on?