Villain opens around 50% after 30 hands. This was my first 3bet. He had folded to a few cbets in single raised pots and his oop vpip was 50%. So he seemed fairly tight in general.
Should I barrel this turn?
It seems like there aren't gonna be many 5's in his range.
And what about the same situation vs a spewy opponent?


hero?????

Bet vs spewy. c/c vs a tight ass imo.

Thanks.

Anyone else out there care to share their opinion?

I'd be more wary of a set than him having a 5. He called a good size bet so i'd go for top pairs or sets. I'd check turn and hope he thought i was trapping and then he'd check back then i would bet river. Bit of pot control needed i think.

Thanks bri.

I feel like villain is more likely to see a check as weak if I slow down as there aren't many 5's in my 3bet range. Do you not think a check here makes my hand look like overcards and will induce a bluff and make for an even more awkward spot??
What would be your plan if you checked and villain bet?

When the board can run out in an ugly manner for your hand strength i bet a little smaller otf, it's a board that you can still get stacks in when a favorable run out occurs, especially in a 3b pot.

A lot of suited connectors that contain a seven can call a turn bet and even though it's unlikely there is a 5 in your 3b range, he will only ever raise OTT with a straight, unless you deem him capable to raise as a bluff (but why would the villain raise the near nuts? If you're still leading big)

I think it's a case of betting turn and river, small though, because any time you check your hand will be face up (you don't have a straight). He will be able to value bet sets and 2prs.
Bet size that will get you to showdown. Unfortunately, unless he's capable of bluffing when checked to, or bluff raises, your going to have to fold.

Thanks spartan. Do you think that making smaller bets on such a wet board might actually make my hand look weak though? I think most villains expect a decent over pair to be betting bigger for protection, and I'm concerned that betting smaller may actually induce more bluffs and put me in an awkward spot.

Saying that, this board pretty much misses a tight villains 3b flatting range. In which case does villains flat not suggest that his range is weighted more towards over cards? Making a turn barrel a mandatory bet vs a tight opponent?

I'm interested to here other views on this.

If villains can distinguish your value bet size from yor regular bet size based on board texture, is that turning your hand face up?

3/5 pot on a drawy board is for V and 1/2 pot on a drawy board weak?
In the first instance, i'd call with my draws, since if i bink i can get paid a certain % of the time, the second instance, i'll raise my draws since i know you're betting pattern is 1/2 pot with a weak hand range...

If betting smaller induces more bluffs, wouldnt that be a good thing?
Of course you'd have to know if the villain is capable.

re: the KK

A lot of suited aces can be in villains range and the 7 is another scare card for a hand like A4, so a small turn and river bet gets value from those hands in his range and you dont have to guess if you're raised later on. When i say small bets otf, T & R i mean 150 flop 210 turn and 250 river.

Keeps his range wider the whole way along and we can increase these sizes based on various board run outs.

very interesting hand.

did you ever consider checking the flop? Actually against the spewy player, i'd probably give some rope by checking the flop or cbetting flop then checking the turn.

Bet smaller or check the flop

Bet small/fold turn

If he calls again just check the river, betting is too ambitious

Thanks guys,

I'm struggling to see the benefits of checking the flop, seems like I just miss value and give villain a free chance to outdraw me.
I think betting smaller is definitely something I will utilize in the future.

Cheers