Two Plus Two Publishing LLC Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
 

Go Back   Two Plus Two Poker Forums > Tournament Poker > Heads Up SNG

Notices

Heads Up SNG Discussion of heads up Sit & Go poker games. Sponsored by HUSNG.com, the leading heads up poker video site.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-05-2012, 06:45 PM   #16
grinder
 
I_LI_Jl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 468
Re: AJ early vs tilted Villain

Quote:
Originally Posted by xTheRockx99 View Post
you´re wrong.. your equity is maybe 60% here, but chance that you will win "in the future" in easier spots is cerainly higher than 60%...

btw thanks for your propriety..
A: Certainly higher than 60% is overstating it
B: If you want to go that route, add $/time into the equation, then deduct the $/4 mins you'll lose waiting for a better spot from your 65% or whatever equity in which time you could've gotten another game going.

And I'm all for wait for a better spot arguments when it's marginal at best, but here it's really not close at all.
I_LI_Jl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2012, 06:15 AM   #17
veteran
 
mela's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: pls see my pg&c thread
Posts: 2,217
Re: AJ early vs tilted Villain

Passing up on 60-40 edge is suicidal in HUSNG's. Period.

Oh and I snap this off.
mela is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2012, 06:21 AM   #18
grinder
 
I<3Poker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 509
Re: AJ early vs tilted Villain

Time is money. Period.
I<3Poker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2012, 06:32 AM   #19
newbie
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 24
Re: AJ early vs tilted Villain

Againist fish like this is easy to win over 60% games ..
xTheRockx99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2012, 11:54 AM   #20
veteran
 
mela's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: pls see my pg&c thread
Posts: 2,217
Re: AJ early vs tilted Villain

No it's not, 60% winrate is really hard to attain.
mela is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2012, 11:55 AM   #21
Pooh-Bah
 
yaqh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: ithaca
Posts: 5,005
Re: AJ early vs tilted Villain

easy call
yaqh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2012, 12:32 PM   #22
adept
 
vaz1981's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: eatin poop and stabbin dudes
Posts: 1,082
Re: AJ early vs tilted Villain

Quote:
Originally Posted by mela View Post
Passing up on 60-40 edge is suicidal in HUSNG's. Period.

Oh and I snap this off.
+1 on the passing up 60/40 spots. That's just horrible in HUSNG's..... period.

But if you're snapping him off here, what kind of range are you really putting him on?

I'm not saying I'm a HUSNG pro by any stretch of the imagination, but WAY too often this is 22+ and no less than AJs/o+ imo. I can't see him doing this with less given prior reads. And why would he wait until hand 3 to "tilt" shove? Most fishy villains that are tilted just open shove hand 1 of a rematch imo. Any hands after that and you have to evaluate the whole situation and prior reads.

Also, hero showed up with AA last showdown, so we have to believe villain wants to tighten his range up against hero who overshoved a monster OTF.
vaz1981 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2012, 06:43 PM   #23
grinder
 
I_LI_Jl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 468
Re: AJ early vs tilted Villain

Quote:
Originally Posted by vaz1981 View Post
But if you're snapping him off here, what kind of range are you really putting him on?
If we didn't have any history of villain tilting (though shoving this deep seems to point that way), I would put AJo slightly ahead of random's shoving range. Given the history of tilt/fishiness, I could see any A, a ton of K, random air, etc.. which we're obviously crushing.


Quote:
Originally Posted by xTheRockx99 View Post
Againist fish like this is easy to win over 60% games ..
I think you have a misconception about husng edges. The best (non reg-speed, non no-blind-increases, etc...) husng players generally have an itm% between 52%-56% lifetime. Obviously, they are playing tougher average competition, but even against a player like this it's tough to have a constant edge far higher than 60%, you're just not going to get enough premium hands to abuse his shoving range by that much.

The only type of player I would guess you could clearly maintain such an edge on would be someone who is insanely nitty/passive, and you can run over. Otherwise, it's simply not going to happen long term.

Last edited by I_LI_Jl; 04-06-2012 at 06:56 PM.
I_LI_Jl is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply
      

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:18 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright © 2008-2010, Two Plus Two Interactive