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Old 08-05-2012, 04:10 AM   #1
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7$ HU over pair faced donkbet on the river

he is standard player.

fold to 3bet 2/3 times

pfr 48
call 43 / 3b 21
cb 100 / fcb 20 / cbt 100 / ftcb 0
check raise on the flop 20
43 hands

don`t have much info about him

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $6.71 Buy-in (20/40 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
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Hero (SB): 1,473 (36.8 bb)
BB: 1,527 (38.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A A
Hero raises to 80, BB calls 40

Flop: (160) Q Q 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 96, BB calls 96

Turn: (352) 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 211, BB calls 211

River: (774) 3 (2 players)
BB bets 540, [color="grey"]Hero ??

I think his range is very strong and cannot see he is doing bluffing..


the other hand same opponent

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $6.71 Buy-in (25/50 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
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Hero (SB): 935 (18.7 bb)
BB: 2,065 (41.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 5
Hero raises to 100, BB calls 50

Flop: (200) 2 T 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 120, BB raises to 1,240, [color="grey"]Hero ??

easy call ? is he doing with any draw or overcard? I think if he got AJ, KQ, AK, he maybe did 3bet or the other range are possible like QJ , 78, j8, Ax, pp, ect..

he seems running good last few hands include this.. he has been pushing around me.. or I am just a fish lol

waiting for your opinions : D

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Old 08-05-2012, 04:18 AM   #2
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Re: 7$ HU over pair faced donkbet on the river

What's with the sizing? Trying to tilt villain?
check-call, check-call, donk is usually a pretty strong line from villain, but I'm calling. The only real hand I can see that beats you is Qx and that's such a small part of villain's range that I think you have to call. I'm not going to be surprised to see villain with a queen a lot of the time here, but I think it won't be enough to justify a fold.
Given villain's stats he probably 3bets a few queens preflop too...
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Old 08-05-2012, 04:20 AM   #3
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Re: 7$ HU over pair faced donkbet on the river

fish tend to lead rivers with strong hands, regs tend to check raise rivers with strong hands.
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Old 08-05-2012, 06:22 PM   #4
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Re: 7$ HU over pair faced donkbet on the river

Hand 1 is gross but I think it's close between call and fold. His river sizing is really big and looks like Qx a lot, but we need to be good about only ~30% of the time.

Hand 2 I'd fold, there's no flush on flop and you're crushed by most 9x and Tx, while you don't really crush any reasonable draws. You either get it in slightly ahead or way behind here too often.
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Old 08-05-2012, 10:52 PM   #5
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^^ easy call first hand
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Old 08-06-2012, 01:39 PM   #6
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Re: 7$ HU over pair faced donkbet on the river

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Hand 1 is gross but I think it's close between call and fold. His river sizing is really big and looks like Qx a lot, but we need to be good about only ~30% of the time.

Hand 2 I'd fold, there's no flush on flop and you're crushed by most 9x and Tx, while you don't really crush any reasonable draws. You either get it in slightly ahead or way behind here too often.
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Old 08-06-2012, 02:05 PM   #7
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Re: 7$ HU over pair faced donkbet on the river

Yeah the sizing is very tiltting

First hand you could call or fold i think it has the same ev longterm even tho its hard to bluff here.
Second clear fold you cant beat anything and best case hes doing that with a AK type hand but def not often enough.
Seen a lot of people playing QJ in a spot like this tho but still a fold.
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Old 08-06-2012, 05:11 PM   #8
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Re: 7$ HU over pair faced donkbet on the river

1 ) just make it half pot on every street 1st hand, fold river dont expect many bluffs as he would donk the turn when bluffing IMO
2) close to a fold pre, he is calling 43% OOP and 0% folding to a CBET
as played i guess it's an fold
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Old 08-07-2012, 05:18 AM   #9
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Re: 7$ HU over pair faced donkbet on the river

Am I reading the HUD stats correctly? His fold to cbet is 20% and his fold to turn barrel is 0? Hand 1 = snapcall if so
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