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01-15-2011 , 02:03 PM

avman

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Poker Stars $50.00+$2.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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Hero (BB): t1710 85.50 BBs
BTN/SB: t1290 64.50 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with 9

BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero calls t40

Flop: (t120) 4

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t60, Hero calls t60

Turn: (t240) 2

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t120, Hero calls t120

River: (t480) 3

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t240, Hero folds

notes on him:

c/f 885 to half pot c-bet
3bet shoves second raise from me
c-bet JTx 60/120
no c-beto n AT6sss folds 100/120 bet on the 4th spade
c/r 966 with A2o shuts down on Qx 4x
calls 3bet then folds to 180/360 on 743r
folds to c-bet on J85dd

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01-15-2011 , 02:57 PM

LoveDonkey

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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,162

u need to do better job writing your notes. I am sure u are probably the only one who understands it.. It will be more helpful if u just tell us what type of villain he is, and how he plays differently on interesting spot. Anyway, fold to the river for sure, villain's river is for value.

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01-15-2011 , 03:03 PM

TakeHerOnACruise

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OP's notes are fine stop being a dick.

I'd mostly c/r the flop or if you do c/c then you should consider donking into some turns. Like here is a pretty nice turn spot to donk and rep a drawing hand/fos bluff.

As played i'd fold i think. His sizing looks pretty value town'd.

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01-15-2011 , 05:12 PM

dhcg86

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notes looked fine to me

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01-15-2011 , 05:19 PM

nehemiahwall

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I think checkraising small the flop or if check/calling the flop then leading the turn is good, as played the river is a fold. All the flush draws missed but he could have/probably doubled barreled acex or 6x and backed into straight.

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01-15-2011 , 05:36 PM

LoveDonkey

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now I feel like being a dick...

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01-16-2011 , 10:47 AM

mela

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What do you guys think of c/r on turn? I'm thinking it looks rather strong and sucks if we get raised, but just curious..

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01-16-2011 , 11:32 AM

chadders0

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this is a standard call flop donk turn for me.

i'm not sure if river is insta fold, it's such a good card for villain to bluff (and he doesn't have to bet big) and I think having an ace in his hand may make him less likely to double barrel.

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01-16-2011 , 12:18 PM

reallymonkeyish

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Originally Posted by TakeHerOnACruise

THOAC, would you be donking turn with the intention of calling a raise? I would think yes if you're trying to rep air/draw.

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01-18-2011 , 01:55 PM

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avman

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The reason why I don't like check calling then leading the flop is because it makes my hand look so transparent...a hand that's not good enough to get it in on the flop, but good enough of the time to get some value on the turn.

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01-18-2011 , 01:59 PM

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KarlizL

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He's right about how OP needs to improve his note-taking-skills
I don't think there's much use to a note ''3bet me in 2nd hand'' you might just think that he 3bets light
river is a fold imo

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01-18-2011 , 02:01 PM

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alexDJI

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Those who donk turn, what's your river plan?

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01-18-2011 , 08:52 PM

#13

chocoloco

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Originally Posted by KarlizL

''3bet me in 2nd hand''

isnt it 'shoves' part that does matter here?

i fold river. dont expect A very often but 6x and 2p/sets are definitely there. his air bets turn more than 1/2pot imo so we are facing some nasty value.

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01-18-2011 , 10:49 PM

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chadders0

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Originally Posted by alexDJI

Those who donk turn, what's your river plan?

i'm bet folding the turn

this particular river I would probably bet fold too, I doubt we are raised by worse on this board and are line looks a little weird so villain could level himself into flattin worse. I think check/call would be worst river line unless we knew we was gonna bluff this river a lot, which notes don't indicate.

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01-19-2011 , 08:24 AM

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sinobrody

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basing on the notes he looks like a straightforward player so i would just c/r flop and proly fold to a 3bet but called a shove

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01-19-2011 , 08:52 AM

#16

u cnat spel

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I'd take the same line.

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