Villain is very spewy and aggressive, he called my 3bet with Q5s a few hands earlier. He was very aggressive postflop, bluffing often if I checked to him.

Whats the best course of action here ott knowing that villain will likely fire a big bluff if we check? can we bet for thin value and x/f river if called?


[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $28.57 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
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SB: 1,530 (76.5 bb)
Hero (BB): 1,470 (73.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T T
SB raises to 40, Hero raises to 140, SB calls 100

Flop: (280) A 7 9 (2 players)
Hero bets 140, SB calls 140

Turn: (560) K (2 players)

Hero???

C/c

thnx

if I x/c a big bet ott doesn't that leave me having to fold the river often and losing a massive chunk of my stack

Well depends on how big a bet. But I'm still calling most bets anyway cause only had we behind I assume against this type of villains are k7 k9

don't we c/c on all three streets if we have a pair and is super aggressive?

If I plan on calling a big bet does it not make more sense to be the one doing the betting? I feel like given villains wide range there's still value to be had from draws and weaker pairs.

What are your thoughts on b/f around 240 ott? for thin value and to control the size of the pot.

If I do x/c, and lets assume villain bets 360 ott, whats the plan otr if villain fires again on a blank?

I feel like by not cbetting were giving villain a free shot to outdraw us. Our hand is strong enough to bet for value and also needs some protection imo. I could be wrong though....

What do you consider to be the benefits of taking this line as opposed to cbetting?

I'm also interested to hear others views on this.

Yeah I think the b/f line is fine too, But since u stated villian loves to bluff and make big bets, why don't check and let him bet when u are almost way ahead here all the time considering you block draws and way behind if he has you beat. For sure call river again if blank hits

Dunno why you even want to bet when check folding is a plausible option.

why x/f when I'm likely ahead? don't see what your saying there....

I'm saying if check fold is better than check call it's virtually impossible for betting to be better than checking.

^let me correct myself- talking about this hand here and not in general.

If you say that he will make some huge bluffs if you check here, then I don't see why you shouldn't check call turn or even check call flop. Presumably he is going to bet with a bigger range than he would call with.

ok now you've completely lost me. Why is x/f better than x/c when were ahead of villains wide range?

I'm saying this sentence is wrong. I never said check/fold is best, nor check/call is best. Also you shouldn't be afraid of getting outdrawn on especially if villain is betting a lot when checked to.

Understand that when a sentence starts with "if", it doesn't mean that the first assertion is true. And ott here checkfolding and check calling seem close to me in vacuum, but from what you wrote it should be an easy check call.

given that u have the nutworst blockers to x/c turn, i think its closer to a x/f rather than a x/c even if he is somewhat spewy. it also comes down a bit to how polarized his turn betting range is when checked to. its a very important piece of info wether he vbets with Kx ott or smashes btns by betting 9x etc. also betting turn again is pretty bad.

You need to set the hand up pre as you only mentioned he is agg post and did not give us any pre flop tendencies. I wouldn't have built the pot so large pre (personally). Not bloating the pot pre allows our hand to play a little better post flop as we'd be more inclined to allow villain to bluff post and call him down on most run outs in a smaller pot since that's where his aggro tendencies seem to be most prevalent.

I'd rather 3b JTs or 78s since we have lots of ways to improve. TT turns into a wa/wb situation really quickly on many boards against an opp who puts in lots of money and makes our hand feel bleh when we know we're going to face a bet any time we check.

I must add, I think the three bet pre is fine, but again, we don't need to build pots pre even with hands as vulnerable (& as strong) as TT because that's not where villain is putting in the most money and can usually play pretty well in pos vs hero.

I see what your saying now. Thanks for clearing that up.

Cheers everyone for the input

Bet turn a half give up if raised, c/f river. Do not 3 bet JJ- vs him, couse no sense/hard to play big pots without a possion with such holdings vs him. Try to 3bet wider, hands that flop well - like brodway, suited A2345T+ and so on.

no

What exactly, why? Please.

JJ is an easy 3b for value and it actually flops pretty well, def a lot better than suited Ax hands. it makes a lot of sense to play big pots with big pps in husngs.

I wrote that wrong, meant pps lower than JJ, sry. And I didn't mean all suited As but A2,3,4,5 AT+. Leaving out A6789 makes huge difference in EV against spewy aggressive villians.