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07-12-2012, 05:29 PM
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centurion
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Exactly like a slot machine
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$30 Hyper first hand
Played villain in 4 matches total over last few days, I would like to know if I played this hand well or not, thanks.
[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $29.37 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13500262
Hero (SB): 500 (25 bb)
BB: 500 (25 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 9  T
Hero raises to 40, BB raises to 100, Hero calls 60
Flop: (200) 8  4  7 (2 players)
BB bets 100, Hero raises to 400 and is all-in, BB calls 300 and is all-in
Turn: (1,000) A (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: (1,000) 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
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07-12-2012, 06:01 PM
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adept
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,069
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Re: $30 Hyper first hand
If you played him before, some reads would be nice, especially how much he 3bets? how much he 3bets non all in/jam.
But anyway with this cbet sizing and no reads im folding.
Dont think you have much fold equity and vs gii range you have poor equity.
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07-12-2012, 06:11 PM
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centurion
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Exactly like a slot machine
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Re: $30 Hyper first hand
his stats - 74/48 3bet is 44% only have 49 hands on him so not a great indicator
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07-12-2012, 07:36 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: May 2009
Location: South Europe
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Re: $30 Hyper first hand
how much do you think are non AI 3bets out of that 44%? if he's doing it a lot it should be fine but readless this is a really nasty spot, vs any club you have at most 11 outs
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07-12-2012, 07:40 PM
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banned
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 115
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Re: $30 Hyper first hand
fold
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07-12-2012, 08:04 PM
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veteran
Join Date: Mar 2011
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Re: $30 Hyper first hand
horribly played.
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07-13-2012, 03:56 AM
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Re: $30 Hyper first hand
I wouldn't reraise to 100. You can easily push this hand profitable vs 74% opener if he doesn't call hands like QT, JT if you push. If you reraise you will not get a pair 2 out of 3 times on the flop plus you are out of position. I would check the flop because there is big chance he has a club and lots of his holdings will be with a T or the 9 with a better kicker (He will probably reraise all in with A and he will fold most of his 2, 3 , 4 combinations, his weakest hands). If you decide to bet the flop I would fold to the push.
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07-13-2012, 04:06 AM
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centurion
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Exactly like a slot machine
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Re: $30 Hyper first hand
Bernardc - Villain reraised to 100 not me
for those that think I played it poorly is that preflop, on the flop or both?
I appreciate the feedback guys.
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07-13-2012, 04:07 AM
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grinder
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 408
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Re: $30 Hyper first hand
Quote:
Originally Posted by bernardc
I wouldn't reraise to 100. You can easily push this hand profitable vs 74% opener if he doesn't call hands like QT, JT if you push. If you reraise you will not get a pair 2 out of 3 times on the flop plus you are out of position. I would check the flop because there is big chance he has a club and lots of his holdings will be with a T or the 9 with a better kicker (He will probably reraise all in with A and he will fold most of his 2, 3 , 4 combinations, his weakest hands). If you decide to bet the flop I would fold to the push.
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You mean the villain, right?
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07-13-2012, 04:15 AM
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adept
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,192
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Re: $30 Hyper first hand
Quote:
Originally Posted by bernardc
I wouldn't reraise to 100. You can easily push this hand profitable vs 74% opener if he doesn't call hands like QT, JT if you push. If you reraise you will not get a pair 2 out of 3 times on the flop plus you are out of position. I would check the flop because there is big chance he has a club and lots of his holdings will be with a T or the 9 with a better kicker (He will probably reraise all in with A and he will fold most of his 2, 3 , 4 combinations, his weakest hands). If you decide to bet the flop I would fold to the push.
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what hands are you flatting in this spot if you're shoving 9Ts?
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07-13-2012, 04:41 AM
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adept
Join Date: Aug 2011
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Re: $30 Hyper first hand
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stake and Chips
for those that think I played it poorly is that preflop, on the flop or both?
I appreciate the feedback guys.
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Preflop is fine. Jamming postflop is bad because of reasons I mentioned above.
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07-13-2012, 04:48 AM
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veteran
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: @braminc
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Re: $30 Hyper first hand
I think I'd rather flat pre vs like a 20% 3bettor or something. Vs 44% 3b, 4b shoving must be massively +ev, no?
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07-13-2012, 05:06 AM
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veteran
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: slowplaying A-high
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Re: $30 Hyper first hand
flatting or 4bet shoving is both close vs most imo, i tend to flat because hand plays so sick in position, but it also does super great in allins so both fine options. if villain is decent post a shove is prob better. (also: some players 3bet stronger hands to 100 and bluff to 90!)
flop is a snapfold, terrible equity on this flop.
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07-13-2012, 06:11 AM
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adept
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: israel
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Re: $30 Hyper first hand
I'm flatting pre.
if the flop was 784ccx i snap jam we have good equity and 2 overs prob fold good % of the time, but here i just fold the flop any club crush our equity also hands like QcT JQc JKc prob call on this board and we pretty dead against them.
Last edited by Orsulab3rt; 07-13-2012 at 06:19 AM.
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07-14-2012, 04:13 AM
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Re: $30 Hyper first hand
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stake and Chips
Bernardc - Villain reraised to 100 not me
for those that think I played it poorly is that preflop, on the flop or both?
I appreciate the feedback guys.
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Sorry, my mistake.
I think you played it fine. It is def a call preflop and he can c-bet any 2 on that flop when he rr preflop.
But also interesting to see the hand from another point of view.
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