All 3 are readless situations.

First hand is a tough spot in 3bet pot (well imo at least).

Flatting vs shoving here? I feel like we are doing really bad vs his calling range and we don't have that much FE.
On turn, most of his 3b value hands crush us but I couldn't bring myself to fold. I feel like we still have the odds to call though given that he's not shutting down with most of his "air" range anyway (AQ+, some bluff hands, FD, splitting with KJ)



2nd and 3rd hands are common spots where I want to make sure I do the optimal line readless.
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I made a similar thread before with FD instead. On a board like this, c/shoving it was going to be best with most of them (lower cards and such). What about OESD? You don't have as much equity when called, but you deny other draws the chance to realize their equity.



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My reasoning for c/shoving here is that a lot of turn cards kill the action and there are a bunch of bottom/mid pair + additional equity combos that are going to call a shove pretty often. If there was a possible FD, I think I'd rather make it 120-130 since there are more draws that will shove over. Same thing if cbet was t40?

1. First hand is ok imo. You have 2 overs + gut shot so can float here. Flop doesn't hit readless 3bet range imo. Turn easy call.
2. Personally I think cr nai as the board is pretty wet so you'll get called a lot of the time. Maybe 110-120 sizing and fold to jam?
3. I don't like the shove, just cr nai. If the board was drier I would say flat and let villain barrel off intending to call down a lot of boards.
Thoughts?

Hand 1: Readless jamming flop will be fine, you'll get enough folds against randoms to make it ok. If you're flatting, it's not to fold when you hit top pair on the turn.

Hand 2: I don't like this at all, major spew and far from optimal, especially readless. I'd like it a lot better if you had a read like villain raises 80% from button and cbets 100%, but even still a non AI c/r will achieve the same effect for less chips. When we raise we're trying to fold out the air portion of his cbet range, with a little equity for backup when called.

Also, with flush draw, you have a TON more equity when villain calls your jam. With a bare OESD on a flush draw board, you are just toast against villain's calling range.

Another factor to consider readless is that a lot of villains will check this flop texture back with air, so on average I'd say you're up against a stronger range when villain does bet.

Hand 3: Undecided here. On one hand, jamming looks weaker and, like you said, gets all the chips in against villain's pair +draw hands. However, by c/r to 130-140, you give villain the chance to spew over your raise and also to flat hands that should fold or jam.

In practice I raise non all in readless, but not sure which play is optimal.

I agree with what zachaser said about hand 1 and 2 but hand 3 I'd prefer a crnai bet to about 120-130. The reasoning for this is that we most likely have the best hand with top pair good kicker. The flop is somewhat wet but nothing I'd be too worried about.

1st hand i guess it's close between flatting and raising, i see some fold equity here but you have that on alot of turns, too.

2nd hand i don't think you have enough equity when called to ck/jam here, just c/c

3rd hand i think ck/jamming is cool, all his 6x hands are in a tough spot because they have so much equity.

1) Raise/call shove, it can be more annoying for him than just jamming
2) C/c, don't think you have enough FE vs. a normal betting range on this flop no matter whether you jam or just c/r
3) C/jam