Originally Posted by burek.sira
This is the question I have to answer, but I don't have clear answer.
He opened 80% of BTNs (small sample - 25ish hands). At the time I just wanna to see how will he react to 3B. OTF I had SDV, If i bet nth worse doesn't pay me off
and if he raises i have to fold
I'll give this a sick one week bump because the rationale of including mid PPs in your 3b range is intersting to me. Hopefully one of the better players will jump in and give me an informative smack down where my thinking is off.
I think a lot of people will tell you not to 3b mid PPs deep (i.e., non-AI 3b's) because they are hard to play post-flop when you get called. Most flops will have overcards and now you are playing OOP with a bloated pot. I like to have them in my 3b range against villains who don't like fold pre but play fairly straight forward post. If he's going to call a lot of pretty looking hands but tend to be fit-fold post we hope to get a flop fold out of him 2/3 of the time and make some money on a hand that can be hard to play OOP. But make no mistake that's our goal ... a fold flop is a great result here. If you are going to 3b hands like 77-99 you aren't looking for worse hands to pay you off post-flop unless you hit your set and 3betting to set mine is god awful.
Of course, if villain is calling 3b's pre and playing fit-fold, we could better exploit him by 3betting our junk hands ... now we're getting value from an otherwise worthless hand. TBH, there are only three reasons I can think of for 3betting 88 instead of junk:
1 - I am pretty happy getting it in pre with 88 and I hate 3b folding at typical HUSNG stack depths.
2 - We can flop a monster and against this type of player, we are likely to get his stack when he connects.
3 - I prefer to take initiative with these hands instead of trying to play them OOP without initiative (esp against anyone with a high cbet %)
FWIW, the other situation where I like including mid PPs in my 3bet range is when villain gets really spewy when faced with significant aggression. Including these hands let's you create a wider value heavy 3b range.