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Old 09-19-2010, 06:43 AM   #1
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20$ HUSNG - Ace on the River

Hi,

I know this is not a standard play. Villain is tight and not necesarilly solid (as he doesn't vary his tight range).

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Hero (BB) (t925)
Tight villain (SB) (t2075)

Hero's M: 20.56

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, 9
Tight villain bets t75, Hero calls t45

Flop: (t150) 4, K, 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, Tight villain bets t80, Hero calls t80

At this moment I was 90% sure he missed the flop.

Turn: (t310) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, Tight villain checks

I regret not betting here for 200.

River: (t310) A (2 players)
Hero bets t210, Tight villain calls t210

I think that I should have c/c here against this tight villain.

Total pot: t730

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Old 09-19-2010, 06:53 AM   #2
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Re: 20$ HUSNG - Ace on the River

standard. c/c river is going to be bad. Post more specific reads besides 'tight', and you'll get more accurate responses.
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Old 09-19-2010, 06:59 AM   #3
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Re: 20$ HUSNG - Ace on the River

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standard. c/c river is going to be bad. Post more specific reads besides 'tight', and you'll get more accurate responses.
As said villain was very tight but not solid. I meant that he played good but his "perfectly straightforward" poker made him easy to read.

F.e. when he reraised - he just hit a monster. When he 2/3 - 3/4 bet flop - he hit a medium pair or better. When he ck/ck two consecutive streets - he probably had weak hand. Almost no bluffing, just playing accordingly to the strenght of his hand.
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Old 09-19-2010, 07:25 AM   #4
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Re: 20$ HUSNG - Ace on the River

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F.e. when he reraised - he just hit a monster. When he 2/3 - 3/4 bet flop - he hit a medium pair or better. When he ck/ck two consecutive streets - he probably had weak hand. Almost no bluffing, just playing accordingly to the strenght of his hand.
Seems to me this is the worst possible villian type to ch/c the river with. He will probably check down a lot of worse hands that he might call a bet with (Kx, underpairs, an 8) and won't bet as a bluff. Plus you can feel comfortable bet folding.

Also, OOC what made you 90% sure he missed the flop? His betsize? I mean floatings fine/standard with reads imo but I'm rarely 90% sure of anything in husngs.
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Old 09-19-2010, 07:46 AM   #5
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Re: 20$ HUSNG - Ace on the River

Check/calling river is gonna be a waste of value vs most ppl, and esp. vs this villain
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Old 09-19-2010, 08:41 AM   #6
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Re: 20$ HUSNG - Ace on the River

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Check/calling river is gonna be a waste of value vs most ppl, and esp. vs this villain
yea this
id bet bigger than 210
i might not even get to that river with this hand depending on how tight villain is
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Old 09-19-2010, 11:42 AM   #7
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Re: 20$ HUSNG - Ace on the River

bet river small...don't think he has many worse Ax in his pre flop raising range if he's really that tight

c/c river is a horrible option if you ask me

also, there's nothing wrong with c/raising flop small
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Old 09-19-2010, 12:01 PM   #8
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Re: 20$ HUSNG - Ace on the River

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As said villain was very tight but not solid. I meant that he played good but his "perfectly straightforward" poker made him easy to read.

F.e. when he reraised - he just hit a monster. When he 2/3 - 3/4 bet flop - he hit a medium pair or better. When he ck/ck two consecutive streets - he probably had weak hand. Almost no bluffing, just playing accordingly to the strenght of his hand.
sounds like you should c/f flop usually
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Old 09-19-2010, 01:24 PM   #9
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Re: 20$ HUSNG - Ace on the River

i like just c/r this flop he is pitchin his AQ and all of his air here, if hes calling he has us beat or hes drawing, but he misses this flop so often, that the only bad thing here is our eff stx, but i would fire this 8 turn, and if hes calling then, i think A is a miracle card for us, because he, wont have many Ax in his range, but if he was trapping with tp then we get paid
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Old 09-19-2010, 02:48 PM   #10
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Re: 20$ HUSNG - Ace on the River

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Also, OOC what made you 90% sure he missed the flop? His betsize? I mean floatings fine/standard with reads imo but I'm rarely 90% sure of anything in husngs.
Yes, in this case his bet sizing + board texture.
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Old 09-19-2010, 02:59 PM   #11
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Re: 20$ HUSNG - Ace on the River

if you are that sure he missed and is a super tight by the book player

c/r the flop
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Old 09-19-2010, 06:34 PM   #12
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Re: 20$ HUSNG - Ace on the River

u played it right, see just dont think and u'll do fine

if u think u'll wanna do stuff like betting that turn and checking that river
say yes to drugs
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