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Old 08-19-2012, 06:17 PM   #1
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10€ turbo - Call huge overbet shove A high OTT ?

Hello,

Vilain is a fish. Since it's french market there are not a lot of player so I have already played him before and I have a ton of read on him. He calls 56% OOP and 3bet 8% on 280 hands and he's usually very passive (AF 0.7 on the flop and 0.5 on the turn). I've already seen him check calling top pair, two pairs and nut flush until river. Sometimes he min check raises one street and then barrels the next one very strong but I don't know with what type of hand.

On the other hand he once 3barrelled bluff very strong on an A high board with a draw.

Is the call good here ? On what range do you put him ?

    [hand_history]Poker Stars, $9.40 Buy-in (20/40 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
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    Hero (SB): 1,745 (43.6 bb)
    BB: 1,255 (31.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with T A
    Hero raises to 80, BB calls 40

    Flop: (160) K 6 6 (2 players)
    BB bets 160, Hero calls 160

    Turn: (480) 4 (2 players)
    BB bets 1,015 and is all-in
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    Old 08-19-2012, 06:58 PM   #2
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    Re: 10€ turbo - Call huge overbet shove A high OTT ?

    Fold

    There can't be enough air in his range to make this a profitable call.
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    Old 08-20-2012, 07:00 AM   #3
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    Re: 10€ turbo - Call huge overbet shove A high OTT ?

    easy fold ^
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    Old 08-20-2012, 11:22 AM   #4
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    Turn is definitely a fold, Id probably just fold on the flop
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    Old 08-20-2012, 04:52 PM   #5
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    Re: 10€ turbo - Call huge overbet shove A high OTT ?

    Thanks for your answers. But could you give me more informations about your thinking process. On what range do you put him ? 6x ? Kx ? It's hard to see him betting like that with those types of hands given reads he usually like to trap with monsters
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    Old 08-20-2012, 05:34 PM   #6
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    Re: 10€ turbo - Call huge overbet shove A high OTT ?

    Why you think soo much, this player is so passive, that you definitely want to wait better spot. Why would you danger all your chips with bluff catcher against player bad like this one???
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    Old 08-20-2012, 05:41 PM   #7
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    Re: 10€ turbo - Call huge overbet shove A high OTT ?

    passive players don't shove turns with air...
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    Old 08-20-2012, 11:32 PM   #8
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    Re: 10€ turbo - Call huge overbet shove A high OTT ?

    http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/18...stars-1236030/
    watch the hand replayer from the first post. this shud give you a good impression of what its like to be in vilain shoes. mean shoving ranges
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    Old 08-21-2012, 01:07 PM   #9
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    Id call. With reads I think this is likely not for value
    We also get a ton of info
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    Old 08-22-2012, 02:31 PM   #10
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    Re: 10€ turbo - Call huge overbet shove A high OTT ?

    End of the hand. I followed my reads and called after tanking a lot.

      Poker Stars, $9.40 Buy-in (20/40 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      Hero (SB): 1,745 (43.6 bb)
      BB: 1,255 (31.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with T A
      Hero raises to 80, BB calls 40

      Flop: (160) K 6 6 (2 players)
      BB bets 160, Hero calls 160

      Turn: (480) 4 (2 players)
      BB bets 1,015 and is all-in, Hero calls 1,015

      River: (2,510) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

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