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Stars temp bans me for slow play vs cartel/division members that reported me Stars temp bans me for slow play vs cartel/division members that reported me

06-07-2017 , 07:18 AM
you said it yourself, facing difficult decisions on one table might cause significant delay on trivial decisions because you take them in the order they arise. while i would not call it intentional stalling at all i am greatful that stars doesn't tolerate this sort of multitabling.
when you need 10 secs to fold in nobrainer spots it has nothing to do with maximizing your edge by deep thinking.

i don't know if you stack your tables but you should find a way to enable yourself to prioritize simple decisions, that way noone would have an argument against you taking your time in other spots.

gl and sorry for the ban, although i don't agree with you on your behaviour, i don't think the accusation they banned you for is justified.
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06-07-2017 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Pyha Karu
Just because the majority of regs take most spots as "standard" and fail to improve their game over time, shouldnt mean I have to become one of them. Ive played for 7 years now and always stayed ahead of the curve- constantly looking for improvements to make/statistics/betsize tells during playing has obviously the most to do with it.
Lmao.
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06-07-2017 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Duncelanas
Regardless, arguing with us here on 2p2 doesn't accomplish anything. You can act in accordance with Stars' decision here, email them and attempt to get them to reverse course, or continue doing what you're doing and risk further disciplinary action in the future. Pleading your case on 2p2 is absolutely worthless, and as has been shown you're getting very little sympathy from most of the community here. Time to accept it, adapt, and move on.

Also not sure how you can say you're "ahead of the curve" when you've been playing for years and you're just a $30s reg. Most of the guys who are truly ahead of the curve are playing much higher. No shots, I don't particularly want to play you, but it's sort of lol to suggest you're just doing this super deep insane stuff when you're a low/midstakes grinder.
By "being ahead of the curve" I just meant Ive been constantly improving as a player and shown great winrates in the games Ive been playing, especially these past few yeara in HU turbos. Was nr.1 by ROI in 15s 4 mans and now I havent found anyone with a higher ROI in 30s 2 man HU turbos either, eventhough Im playing vs regs the large majority of the time and they play vs fish majority of the time. Also when you see that I was playing 15s mostly for a few years and now jump up to 30s and show 7.5% EV ROI immediately vs them, then clearly Ive been playing lower for a long time than I should have. I wont continue playing HU turbos though cause inevitably it takes time for me to change my multitabling approach and one slow game can with me getting an even longer ban than 14 days. Im just gonna grind some eurosites right now and move on with the plan I had anyways, to move to 60s spin n gos/100s spin n gos and streaming MTTs
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06-07-2017 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyha Karu
By "being ahead of the curve" I just meant Ive been constantly improving as a player and shown great winrates in the games Ive been playing, especially these past few yeara in HU turbos. Was nr.1 by ROI in 15s 4 mans and now I havent found anyone with a higher ROI in 30s 2 man HU turbos either, eventhough Im playing vs regs the large majority of the time and they play vs fish majority of the time. Also when you see that I was playing 15s mostly for a few years and now jump up to 30s and show 7.5% EV ROI immediately vs them, then clearly Ive been playing lower for a long time than I should have. I wont continue playing HU turbos though cause inevitably it takes time for me to change my multitabling approach and one slow game can with me getting an even longer ban than 14 days. Im just gonna grind some eurosites right now and move on with the plan I had anyways, to move to 60s spin n gos/100s spin n gos and streaming MTTs
"one slow game" Have you finished atleast 1 game without timing?
why would you limp 92s time and fold when somebody pushes? Thats what you did all the time

Last edited by Drogas; 06-07-2017 at 12:56 PM.
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06-07-2017 , 12:38 PM
There are some things stars is doing that absolutely suck but this isn't one of them.

OP: play faster. It's as easy as that. You are ruining the game for other players and you need to stop.
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06-07-2017 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Drogas
"one slow game" Have you finished atleast 1 game without timing?
why would you limp 92s time and fold when somebody pushes? Thats what you did all the time
Its the multitabling method Ive been using as I mentioned before- going through table actions clockwise, instead of going over all the tables at the same time and looking for obvious decisions to get those over with. Until now Ive just focused on the 1 table that I am taking action on and that has actually caused situations, where Ive folded a monster hand on another table in a 3b pot and other similar big equity losses. So this could help my winrate/hourly actually, to learn to go through all the tables at the same time.
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06-07-2017 , 02:22 PM
"I've been going through table actions clockwise, instead of going over all the tables at the same time and looking for obvious decisions to get those over with"
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06-07-2017 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by KiwiKiller
"I've been going through table actions clockwise, instead of going over all the tables at the same time and looking for obvious decisions to get those over with"
i laughed too, like wtf is this thread.
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06-08-2017 , 07:17 AM
Yeah u can facepalm all u want, Im sure u guys have been doing everything the optimal way in your lives.
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06-08-2017 , 07:29 AM
No but most people don't go make threads about it and claim to be the victim.
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06-08-2017 , 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Pyha Karu
Yeah u can facepalm all u want, Im sure u guys have been doing everything the optimal way in your lives.
Dude you have been doing it wrong this whole time LOL. sorry everything stars has done in relation to your case is probably justified considering your fkn awfulll multi table skills and i mean fkn terrible, wtf were you doing complaining for when you play as slow as that. The more i think about it the more i feel that stars actually went soft on you like wtf who multi-tables like that. I guess you just like doing things clockwise.
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06-08-2017 , 10:51 AM
Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will always hurt me.

In reality though, yes I do get rid of the obvious decisions sometimes aswell but there are definitely times where I zone too much into one table action and forget about others. When I was 6 tabling, I got constantly seated out of my hands, so I cant see anyone who wouldnt like to play vs someone who gives edge away like that. But now that the sample sizes have gone bigger and its obvious that even with these big mistakes Ive crushed the 30s cartel, of course I get reported hard, unlike weaker players.
Its also lolworthy to say I have had "fkn awful multitabling skills" when I managed to multitable 6 tables vs different regs and also with a monster winrate. Now obviously I need to try and change the habit of zoning into one table action too much and it will definitely help me get an even bigger edge overall. I havent knowingly broken any direct rules on Pokerstars( the accusations have been about intentional stalling, which has not been the case) and started adjusting my multitabling since the first warning but a lot of poker players are salty as f anyways, so not surprised about some of these answers and there really isnt a single lowstakes reg who would have a decent edge vs me longterm and would like me around, so Im sure that brings even more salt in here.

Last edited by Pyha Karu; 06-08-2017 at 11:15 AM.
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06-08-2017 , 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyha Karu
Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will always hurt me.

In reality though, yes I do get rid of the obvious decisions sometimes aswell but there are definitely times where I zone too much into one table action and forget about others. When I was 6 tabling, I got constantly seated out of my hands, so I cant see anyone who wouldnt like to play vs someone who gives edge away like that. But now that the sample sizes have gone bigger and its obvious that even with these big mistakes Ive crushed the 30s cartel, of course I get reported hard, unlike weaker players.
Its also lolworthy to say I have had "fkn awful multitabling skills" when I managed to multitable 6 tables vs different regs and also with a monster winrate. Now obviously I need to try and change the habit of zoning into one table action too much and it will definitely help me get an even bigger edge overall. I havent knowingly broken any direct rules on Pokerstars( the accusations have been about intentional stalling, which has not been the case) and started adjusting my multitabling since the first warning but a lot of poker players are salty as f anyways, so not surprised about some of these answers and there really isnt a single lowstakes reg who would have a decent edge vs me longterm and would like me around, so Im sure that brings even more salt in here.
Im lost off words. By timing and beeing anoying to players counts as "giving edge". "adjusted multitabling. Like i said, you timed each hand no matter how tables you had. Each hand with you was literaly about 30 secs. If you need 10 secs to fold 92o each time, then i would not call it adjusting. Can you name a reg from 100$ who play that slow? many off them play 4 tables offten in normal speed and makes decent $$$
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06-08-2017 , 01:50 PM
Most of your win rate probably comes from tilting the **** out of your opponents fwiw not a bad game plan if you can get away with it
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06-08-2017 , 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by KiwiKiller
Most of your win rate probably comes from tilting the **** out of your opponents fwiw not a bad game plan if you can get away with it
This
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06-08-2017 , 07:05 PM
The hypocrisy here is that it is common knowledge that Stars acts against stallers. Thats why they changed the 1table 6max hyper (and sats) structures to 'per hand' instead of per minute and killed sats how they were so some of the sat regs actually had to quit.
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06-08-2017 , 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by KiwiKiller
Most of your win rate probably comes from tilting the **** out of your opponents fwiw not a bad game plan if you can get away with it
This
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06-08-2017 , 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by KiwiKiller
Most of your win rate probably comes from tilting the **** out of your opponents fwiw not a bad game plan if you can get away with it
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Originally Posted by Pyha Karu
This
This was frowned upon 7 years ago and still is.

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06-08-2017 , 11:34 PM
my god that song is still ****ing great lmao.
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