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Spins - 3handed - Donking turn..Am I spewing here? Spins - 3handed - Donking turn..Am I spewing here?

04-16-2018 , 09:39 AM
Microgaming - 15/30 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 18.5 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
Hero (BB): 14.83 BB
BTN: 16.67 BB (VPIP: 49.70, PFR: 35.54, 3Bet Preflop: 13.76, Hands: 1,067)

3 players post ante of 0.23 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.2 BB) Hero has T Q

BTN raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (5.2 BB, 2 players) A T 5
Hero checks, BTN bets 2 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Turn: (9.2 BB, 2 players) A
Hero bets 3.93 BB, BTN calls 3.93 BB

River: (17.07 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero bets 6.67 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 6.67 BB

Hero shows T Q (Two Pair, Aces and Tens)
(Pre 45%, Flop 20%, Turn 0%)
BTN shows 6 A (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 55%, Flop 80%, Turn 100%)
BTN wins 30.4 BB


Button is a regular with 40% open and 80% cbet..
Spins - 3handed - Donking turn..Am I spewing here? Quote
04-16-2018 , 05:36 PM
Turn donk looks fine to me, get value from all his hh combos that might check turn, KJ, KQ also might check turn, dont think we will get bluff raised here very often either.

think id prefer to check back river tho, we can only get value from some worse Tx and he doesnt have too many worse Tx, probably JT is the only worse hand, he can still have KK/QQ, Ax, KT etc but at the same time i dont think its very likely he bluffs on the river as he will mostly have some kind of K/Q high that might just take its tiny SD, so probably a x/f
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04-19-2018 , 03:00 AM
Thanks for the comments.
So is it totally ok to invest 8.5bb in a pot and folding 6.67 behind when villain shoves on a blank card?
If I had 15bb behind, maybe I would check fold but when there's only 6.67 behind I mistakenly think I can never fold etc. How to think correctly in these situations?
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04-19-2018 , 05:58 AM
with a donk on the turn in this spot you engaged yourself in a hard situation. it's easy to btn to read you ! i think you raise before flop a better Ax like At+ so he know you dont have two pair or flop a set...

If he call you on the turn you can say btn has something like top pair or something so on the river i should x/fold we only beat a float
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06-11-2018 , 07:37 PM
I did my own breakdown of this hand and to weigh in just on your question I think this is really just a c/call down all three streets. Based on my ranges, QTo is call flop. You should not have a raise range on the flop as you have no Ax and he has around 60 combos of Ax, therefore his nut advantage is so large. Following this, on the turn your nut advantage gets even worse as you lose two combos of AA that he does not have and he now has a lot of trips where you have 0. Generally, and people can correct me if I am wrong, but you should be donking when a card is particularly good for your range. In terms of equities, on flop and turn Villain has 63 and 55 percent approx. respectively in range vs range. Therefore, since both your equity and its distribution is not favorable, you should not donk and not really check raise either.
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06-12-2018 , 11:14 AM
c/c turn and allow the air part of villain's range to play along, when you lead you allow villain to continue with hands that you already beat and he would likely bet and hands that beat you, also exposing yourself for an awkward situation building a pot oop with a bluffcatching hand.
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