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Old 02-14-2016, 11:22 AM   #101
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Re: Spin and Go Beginners Thread

PT4 stats settings
What settings do i need to do in PT4 to see my adjusted results? Some configs in the overlay configuration stats right?

ITM / Chips relationship
Whats the relationship between them? From the stats config that I have now I seem to have a high ITM but low Chips won by tournament, how does that go together?
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Old 02-14-2016, 05:43 PM   #102
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ITM=(Chips won by tournament+500)/1500
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Old 02-14-2016, 10:00 PM   #103
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Anyone have links for articles or posts that have info on general 3 handed play/ranges for spins. There doesn't seem to be much good strategy out there or I'm just looking in the wrong places

Edit: is there a 3 handed nash chart ?
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Old 02-18-2016, 07:22 PM   #104
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Re: Spin and Go Beginners Thread

I was going to post this in the other thread but I figured this was more of a beginner question.

What's the best strategy for playing low pocket pairs 3 handed (22-55) 20 - 25bb. I have just been jamming if I'm the button and jamming over a min raise if I'm in any other spot. If I'm big blind and both guys are all in before me I have been folding as the chance of 1 guy having a higher pocket pair seems good. Less than 20 bb it is usually heads up so I either jam or limp shove depending on the player.

3 handed though I'm not sure what is best but when in doubt ship it right?
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Old 02-21-2016, 02:54 PM   #105
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Re: Spin and Go Beginners Thread

Hi All!

Im totally new to SNGs. What do you think about these video packs:

1. for HU: zZzTILT and phl500 Present: Crushing Hyper Turbo HUSNGs
2. for 3way: Beating Spin & Go Poker (and then Coffeeyay and Friends - Spin and Go Video Pack maybe)

What do you think until what limit should be these materials enough? Is it safe to say that I should beat 7$ spins after that (if I watch&learn it effectively)

Is the first pack is still good and not outdated for HU?

Thanks!
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Old 02-21-2016, 04:37 PM   #106
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Re: Spin and Go Beginners Thread

Hey few questions from a 6max grinder thinking about transitioning.

Where do I start? I know nothing about nothing, preflop, postflop, not a clue.

Will have a look around on husng.com and look at some HU related stuff?

Also im using HM2 not quite sure if you can get cEV on there?

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Old 02-21-2016, 04:43 PM   #107
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Re: Spin and Go Beginners Thread

Yes, you can draw a chip graph with the EV in HM2 and view the chip EV in reports, see the FAQ at its site.

I'd rather start by learning to play HU indeed because your natural tightness will save you from burning too much money in 3-max. But then of course you need to learn the basics of 3-max play too. Packs about Spins focus mainly on 3-max because it's assumed that the viewers know how to play HU or can get the info from a plethora of HU packs.
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Old 02-21-2016, 04:48 PM   #108
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thanks ****, any beginner HU packs you can reccomend?
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Old 02-21-2016, 05:14 PM   #109
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Re: Spin and Go Beginners Thread

I can't give my own educated opinion, I've just got a recommendation from someone who's crushing €10 Twister for 80-ish EV chips per tourney (a former reg of Stars $30s who had run bad), who says that the mentioned 'Crushing Hyper Turbo HUSNGs' by zZzTILT and phl500 is a good start.

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Old 02-21-2016, 07:55 PM   #110
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Re: Spin and Go Beginners Thread

^ That's an excellent guide. Pbogz journey pack is a nice one as well if the first is out of your price range.
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Old 02-21-2016, 08:15 PM   #111
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Well, speaking of the price, his Twitch channel (pbogz1114) is free to watch, as well as a plethora of videos on the HUSNGcom Youtube channel. There's however a trade-off between the price and the time to be spent on the education, especially because Paul doesn't always play Jackpot Poker or HU hypers on the stream (mixes a bunch Bovada MTTs in).
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Old 02-21-2016, 09:03 PM   #112
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Re: Spin and Go Beginners Thread

What are some filters I can put on PT4 to find any leaks I may have?

For around the last 500ish games my chip EV line has stayed pretty much exactly the same, hovering between 3k-4k, and I want to try to find some leaks that I may be having.
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Old 02-22-2016, 06:29 AM   #113
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Yes, you can draw a chip graph with the EV in HM2 and view the chip EV in reports, see the FAQ at its site.

I'd rather start by learning to play HU indeed because your natural tightness will save you from burning too much money in 3-max. But then of course you need to learn the basics of 3-max play too. Packs about Spins focus mainly on 3-max because it's assumed that the viewers know how to play HU or can get the info from a plethora of HU packs.
I'm not sure what you mean by the 'natural tightness' here. Are you saying a common leak for beginning players in these games is to be too loose?
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Old 02-22-2016, 07:10 PM   #114
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Anyone?

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Hi All!

Im totally new to SNGs. What do you think about these video packs:

1. for HU: zZzTILT and phl500 Present: Crushing Hyper Turbo HUSNGs
2. for 3way: Beating Spin & Go Poker (and then Coffeeyay and Friends - Spin and Go Video Pack maybe)

What do you think until what limit should be these materials enough? Is it safe to say that I should beat 7$ spins after that (if I watch&learn it effectively)

Is the first pack is still good and not outdated for HU?

Thanks!
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Old 02-23-2016, 02:04 AM   #115
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Re: Spin and Go Beginners Thread

You should be fine well into the $15s with those, but the key is going to be putting the work in on the packs and on your games (tilt free, steady volume, review games).

Those are good choices though.
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Old 02-23-2016, 02:09 AM   #116
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You're making the $15s sound like rocket science.

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I'm not sure what you mean by the 'natural tightness' here. Are you saying a common leak for beginning players in these games is to be too loose?
I meant not beginners but those who transition to Spins from HUSnGs.

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Old 02-23-2016, 04:00 AM   #117
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Thank you, guys!
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Old 02-23-2016, 07:10 PM   #118
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50c spins gone and no cars or 1M won. Nice
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Old 02-25-2016, 11:03 AM   #119
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Hi there...

I've been playing the Twisters on iPoker after a break from playing the Spins a few months ago. Things went all right at first and was playing at 66 cev but then I swung and was overcomplicating things. After a horrific session and day where I lost far too many BI I had a rethink. Since then I have been playing without a HUD and have been playing at 96 cev for the last 550 games.

I'm still below the watermark or first deposit level that would be significant for me. Just looking for thoughts from grinders as I've been looking at the rb on iPoker. This has been 6 tabling and probably playing around 30 / Hour


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Old 03-05-2016, 12:54 PM   #120
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Re: Spin and Go Beginners Thread

Hello everyone, thank you for the great thread, appreciate that!!!


I would like to know:

1. Which range would you recommend for flatting SB when 25bb deep vs unknown's?
2. With what SB range do you 3bet not all-in 25bb deep vs unknown's?
3. With what SB range do you 3bet shove 25bb deep vs unknown's?


Assuming that you use min-raise as the size of the SB steal:

4. What SB range do you open min-raise, vs unknown 25bb eff. ?
5. What SB range do you open-shove vs unknown 25bb eff. ?
6. What SB range do you open-limp vs unknown 25bb eff. ?


Thank you!
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Old 03-06-2016, 11:03 PM   #121
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I'm learning how swingy these bad boys are. I have a 70 chip eV over 1050 games and am down $250 playing $7 spins lol. I'm thinking this is pretty standard... I was thinking a couple hundred games ago that I should probably move to the 15s but honestly while I think I might beat the games I don't think my mind could handle the swings. These are little tilt machines it's not the loss of money that tilts it's strange I can lose 20 buy ins playing $20 hypers and barely notice... its like "okay nice finally got a 10x and get it in good and ohhh no" then the next 15 games will be 2x, that's the tilting part for me.



I have respect for guys that play these full time... Mental game beasts.
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Old 03-12-2016, 01:48 AM   #122
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I'm learning how swingy these bad boys are. I have a 70 chip eV over 1050 games and am down $250 playing $7 spins lol. I'm thinking this is pretty standard... I was thinking a couple hundred games ago that I should probably move to the 15s but honestly while I think I might beat the games I don't think my mind could handle the swings. These are little tilt machines it's not the loss of money that tilts it's strange I can lose 20 buy ins playing $20 hypers and barely notice... its like "okay nice finally got a 10x and get it in good and ohhh no" then the next 15 games will be 2x, that's the tilting part for me.



I have respect for guys that play these full time... Mental game beasts.
haha, I can totally relate to that.. though I rarely ever get x10s, but I finally won my first x25 the other day (after weeks and weeks of getting non). These games can be super tilty, you can really do serious damage to your bank roll during one bad session if you let it go out of control.

I try playing lots of short sessions a day (three tabling, between 10 and 20 spins) instead of playing few long sessions. It usually prevents tilting and, when I do tilt, I avoid spewing too many buy ins at once.
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Old 03-14-2016, 06:28 PM   #123
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Hi guys,

Play 5€ spins.
1st hand
Seems to me kind of an interesting spot ott. I'd like to know what might be best here. Bet? X/c? X/f? If u bet, what betsizing and why? If u x/c, what betsizing and why?

Think I should ahave bet smaleer otf (t25) to fold all his Q2 and stuff like that but keep the pot a little smaller.

I'll post my thoughts ott later.

Hold'em No Limit Tournament (€4.65+€0.35)
PokerStars - 3 players
Converted with HandConverter.fr

Stacks:
BTN - madase63 (500)
SB - Hero (500)
BB - ruff45 (500)

Blinds: 10/20

Preflop: (30, 3 players) Hero is SB with Th Jc
1 fold, Hero calls 10, ruff45 checks

Flop: 7h 8c 6d (40, 2 players)
Hero bets 30, ruff45 calls 30

Turn: Ks (100, 2 players)
Hero...
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Old 03-14-2016, 10:26 PM   #124
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I'm sure this has been asked in the other thread but how much tougher are the 15s than the 7s? I have a cEV of 80 since I started playing spins a few weeks ago (around 1500 games, small same size but I want to take a shot) and am looking to move up. I have 200 buy ins for the 15s and the plan is to move down if I go below 100. I'm going to start with 1 table and only add a 2nd if I feel comfortable.

Is there a big skill difference? I'm guessing people aren't as willing to get it in with k10o and weak Ax 25 bb deep.
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Old 03-14-2016, 10:53 PM   #125
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I'm sure this has been asked in the other thread but how much tougher are the 15s than the 7s? I have a cEV of 80 since I started playing spins a few weeks ago (around 1500 games, small same size but I want to take a shot) and am looking to move up. I have 200 buy ins for the 15s and the plan is to move down if I go below 100. I'm going to start with 1 table and only add a 2nd if I feel comfortable.

Is there a big skill difference? I'm guessing people aren't as willing to get it in with k10o and weak Ax 25 bb deep.
There will be more and better regs but not enough to make your hourly lower than at $7.

Plenty of people willing to gii with trash at 100s also
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