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10-29-2014 , 04:59 PM
The same thing has happened to me but much lower stakes. Hopefully you get a free lifetime subscription to sharky...
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10-29-2014 , 06:12 PM
:| yackk.. this is so sick.
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10-29-2014 , 07:02 PM
Obviously a pretty big issue with the software for that to happen, but like others have said - several ways it could've been avoided. Filtering your Stars lobby to only include the games you're going to be playing during your session is the obvious one.

lol at expecting stars to do anything. They're going to refund you 5k for a glitch in your third party software? Good joke.

Sorry it happened, but to say that none if it is your fault is lying to yourself.
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10-29-2014 , 07:12 PM
I can't believe some people are blaming OP. Software didn't work as intended, it's not his fault. If he has to filter lobby than there's an obvious flaw in the program.

Sure OP didn't filter but that shouldn't matter to begin with, IMO.
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10-29-2014 , 07:31 PM
not sure if you would have complaint if you won, seems weird u didnt ask for a chop or explain the issue to sauce :x
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10-29-2014 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 2WhiteCastle
Sucks that you have 0% chance of a refund now, but did you tell sauce what happened when the table first popped up? He would have probably sent you a refund if you sat out from the beginning and explained what happened.
Ye this.

Happens, for example sharky always regs me to regs when I`m writin notes
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10-29-2014 , 07:52 PM
lol Etheralpoker and OP.

OP made it sound as if he is LOOKING for something/someone to blame whilst stating clearly that he himself is not at fault.

What do you expect when you use sharky? You use it to make registering tournaments and lobby management easier. If someone who doesn't use sharky misregs a 5k (which has happened many times before, and has been made into threads) who is to blame? And what is the difference? Sorry but if you buy software without being careful with it you have yourself to blame.

It sucks and ul OP but be careful next time.
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10-29-2014 , 09:32 PM
Nailed your VPP target for the day though
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10-29-2014 , 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by watergun7
lol Etheralpoker and OP.

OP made it sound as if he is LOOKING for something/someone to blame whilst stating clearly that he himself is not at fault.

What do you expect when you use sharky? You use it to make registering tournaments and lobby management easier. If someone who doesn't use sharky misregs a 5k (which has happened many times before, and has been made into threads) who is to blame? And what is the difference? Sorry but if you buy software without being careful with it you have yourself to blame.

It sucks and ul OP but be careful next time.
So in your opinion it's my fault that this program, without my knowledge, has registered me into the biggest game on the site? Especially that I have a subscription to $100? What do I expect from sharky? Only to work well. That's all. I'm paying for the subscription for up to $100 SNGs, if I wanted higher limits I would have to pay more for that, right? I don't think about how the program works, because I'm not paying to worry about that, I'm just paying for working good. Do I really demand too much?

Btw. I didn't even know before that it's possible to block some stakes. I don't have problems with gambling, so I never even thought about that.

So please tell me where it is my fault?
From your thinking I shouldn't go anywhere because some car can hit me and that will be my fault because I don't sit 24h/day at home. Because if I did- that accident would never of happened!
When someone hacks into your bank account and grabs your money- this is not the hacker fault, is your fault because you make some simple password!
Be serious.

Sure I will be more careful next time, but that is how it works? I have to pay $5000 for that?
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10-29-2014 , 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by watergun7
lol Etheralpoker and OP.

OP made it sound as if he is LOOKING for something/someone to blame whilst stating clearly that he himself is not at fault.

What do you expect when you use sharky? You use it to make registering tournaments and lobby management easier. If someone who doesn't use sharky misregs a 5k (which has happened many times before, and has been made into threads) who is to blame? And what is the difference? Sorry but if you buy software without being careful with it you have yourself to blame.

It sucks and ul OP but be careful next time.
Maybe I'm letting my emotions get in the way, but yea I feel bad for OP, his fault or not.

I hope you recover from your losses OP.
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10-29-2014 , 11:28 PM
Devies sorry for what happened to you, if what you told is 100% true you could probably try to open your sharkscope for everyone see you never gamble as you told up to your limit except some 200 or 300$ some times, with this may be you could try to explain your trouble to sauce123 and if it is a good guy and if him beleive you may be he can refound you .. nobody know what could happen !
good luck
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10-29-2014 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by devies

Panic, shock, disbelief, and ultimately defeat. I didn't know what was happening, and my hands were shaking as an old man, barely I was able to click a mouse

I've lost almost half of my bankroll, which I built with huge effort on my stakes, always with a bankroll managment
Im feeling for you OP

Its not your fault but its not really anyones else fault either. Most of the time when something happens nobody is responsible, things just happen for no particular reason. People always want to pinpoint the responsibility to someone but thats generally pointless and a waste of time, better focus on how to prevent in the future. You are just unlucky, and the way society works is that people who get unlucky usually just have to deal with the consequences of their misfortune. It doesnt feel fair but their is no way that you will get the money back. Maybe if sauce reads this and is in a friendly mood he ships the ev of the game back.

GL grinding it back man. 5k is still a good bankroll to work with and remember that eventhough the money you lost represents a lot of time and effort its only a small part of the money you can win in the future if you keep grinding and improving
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10-30-2014 , 12:34 AM
This happened to me once also sharky sat serkules in a $500 we flipped, i obv lost the flip cuz come on this is serkules we are talking about. I was mad, messed my week up, punched a wall. op I am sorry for your loss, cry your river, I will be your shoulder soldier, your bridge to dry land.
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10-30-2014 , 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by blinblin
Devies sorry for what happened to you, if what you told is 100% true you could probably try to open your sharkscope for everyone see you never gamble as you told up to your limit except some 200 or 300$ some times, with this may be you could try to explain your trouble to sauce123 and if it is a good guy and if him beleive you may be he can refound you .. nobody know what could happen !
good luck
This is just absurd thinking. There is absolutely no onus on him to even consider returning. The game played out and him even offering that would leave himself very much open to be freerolled. Do you tihnk OP would've thought about returning money if he won?

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Originally Posted by icoon
Im feeling for you OP

Its not your fault but its not really anyones else fault either. Most of the time when something happens nobody is responsible, things just happen for no particular reason. People always want to pinpoint the responsibility to someone but thats generally pointless and a waste of time, better focus on how to prevent in the future.
+1 to that here and in general. People are obsessed with finding a singular cause of blame to attribute things to. **** happens, arguing whose should have the largest part of the blame is going to be fruitless. Variance exists in life, stewing on it for too long does no good. Instead just use it as motivation to grind harder. Make it a +ev accident. Everytime you think dno if I can be bothered playing poker, think of the 5k and play. Instead of wasting energy arguing whose fault it is use that time to rectify it and make it an event that has stood to gain you money.
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10-30-2014 , 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluenowhere
This is just absurd thinking.
Thanks for your absurd comment ^^
The fault is of course for sharkystrator's software of course "if" all is true.
Sauce123 is regular and he could understand the fact and refound him, of course need to examine all bi played by devies life time, if he never gamble up to his limit and he is an winning regular at 60$ and 100$ and if he was not in a big downswing there no reason he go gambling at 5000$.
Sauce123 could may be take this in consideration..
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10-30-2014 , 02:10 AM
why would sauce return money to him????
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10-30-2014 , 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by PerryRhodan

what you should have done, and why it's your mistake:

1 - exclude yourself from playing stakes you will never going to play
2 - filter the lobby so only your stakes are listed.

sorry for what you have lost

This!
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10-30-2014 , 03:46 AM
Should have asked Sauce for a chop if it was an accident

Spoiler:
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10-30-2014 , 04:42 AM
Didn't filter lobby
Didn't exclude from highest stakes for protection
Didn't ask for chop

Sorry OP, you are responsible enough that you are owed nothing here. It definitely sucks, though.
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10-30-2014 , 09:18 AM
No chop , no bereive.
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10-30-2014 , 09:19 AM
Men today as such p*ssies.

Whether your story is true or not, the bottom line for you is that you screwed up.

Accept it. Learn from it. Move on.

Don't look to others to subsidize your failings. Man up!
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10-30-2014 , 09:40 AM
Yoo did try to play it out and even go to 20/40 blinds.. This was the hand that crippled you

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PokerStars Hand #124066397233: Tournament #986405412, $4926+$74 USD Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level III (20/40) - 2014/10/28 14:37:50 ET
Table '986405412 1' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Sauce123 (1330 in chips)
Seat 2: DeviesPro (1670 in chips)
DeviesPro: posts small blind 20
Sauce123: posts big blind 40
*** HOLE CARDS ***
DeviesPro: raises 40 to 80
Sauce123: raises 110 to 190
DeviesPro: calls 110
*** FLOP *** [4h 3s 9d]
Sauce123: bets 145
DeviesPro: raises 1335 to 1480 and is all-in
Sauce123: calls 995 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (340) returned to DeviesPro
*** TURN *** [4h 3s 9d] [8h]
*** RIVER *** [4h 3s 9d 8h] [7h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Sauce123: shows [Jc Js] (a pair of Jacks)
DeviesPro: shows [Jd 9c] (a pair of Nines)
Sauce123 collected 2660 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2660 | Rake 0
Board [4h 3s 9d 8h 7h]
Seat 1: Sauce123 (big blind) showed [Jc Js] and won (2660) with a pair of Jacks
Seat 2: DeviesPro (button) (small blind) showed [Jd 9c] and lost with a pair of Nines

I did watch the game and ask much as I know we aren't friends. It's hard to believe you when @ 20/40 you still didnt click to ask for a chop or buyout and pay some money.

I've left sharky on and forgot to turn it off and sent Pokerstars my files and they did confirm that a 3rd party software registered me for the sngs that I ended up sitting out of.


You can ask stars ASAP (I think it only lasts in ur stars folder for 24hrs) to review the file and ask if the software did automatically register you, not that I think you will actually get a refund from Sharky even if it was their fault.

Anyways I'm sure Sauce would of returned the buyin - rake if you had asked at the start and told him, sucks but life goes on...

GL
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10-30-2014 , 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Raziel26
Nailed your VPP target for the day though
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10-30-2014 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by devies
So in your opinion it's my fault that this program, without my knowledge, has registered me into the biggest game on the site? Especially that I have a subscription to $100? What do I expect from sharky? Only to work well. That's all. I'm paying for the subscription for up to $100 SNGs, if I wanted higher limits I would have to pay more for that, right? I don't think about how the program works, because I'm not paying to worry about that, I'm just paying for working good. Do I really demand too much?

Btw. I didn't even know before that it's possible to block some stakes. I don't have problems with gambling, so I never even thought about that.

So please tell me where it is my fault?
From your thinking I shouldn't go anywhere because some car can hit me and that will be my fault because I don't sit 24h/day at home. Because if I did- that accident would never of happened!
When someone hacks into your bank account and grabs your money- this is not the hacker fault, is your fault because you make some simple password!
Be serious.

Sure I will be more careful next time, but that is how it works? I have to pay $5000 for that?
Yeah it's not really your fault but what do you want? To me this seems more like those ppl who fell over going to the toilet and said it's not my fault, so let's sue the building for not putting up a "careful, slippery surface" sign.

When someone hacks into your bank it's call a crime. There is no crime here.
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10-30-2014 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Duncelanas
Didn't filter lobby
Didn't exclude from highest stakes for protection
Didn't ask for chop

Sorry OP, you are responsible enough that you are owed nothing here. It definitely sucks, though.
Don't forget that he was also using sharky to reg "4 mans" waaaaaaaattt
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