You don't think there's a large ROI DIP experienced by many players who choose to play higher volume? If people were to study 2 extra hours a day, play 2 tables and 1k games a month you don't think there'd be more people with that ROI? Or am I missing the joke?

Yes, there is a dip, but 2% ROI * 4 tables * 7 hours > 5% ROI * 2 tables * 5 hours. Variance isn't a big factor because they're either staked or filthy rich already.

I heard there was someone who would do the Stars table mods for you for $20, anyone know who that is?

There's a thread (which I'm too lazy to link). I followed it, and after 2 hrs managed to mod the tables for my mac. Modding for a pc should be much easier. Idk if max cut or mrbamboocha will help u out for free but you might as well do it yourself imo.

Cheers WG, I'll get on it

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Hi I'm a Noob to spins with no husng background.

Are this charts ( mainly the 2 open shove ones) any good? It doesn't really mention if this is GTO or has any player pool tendency adjustment.

I don't really understand the button open shove chart as surely this can only apply when we have the shortist stack. strictly speaking k9o on button with 6bb with both the others having 1.5 bb would be a fold according to to this chart lol

I'm ok when we get to heads up as I can use nash as a basis when effective stacks allow but with the deeper 3 way part I think my game needs real improvement. Although I still feel I usually have edge as the standard of play is pretty shocking.

The other 2 charts (stealing ) make little sense to me. Im playing 7$ and commonly the bb doesn't defend enough from sb so I'm using 2x and I'm stealing with a slightly wider range. but what confuses me is it advocates a 2.5x steal sizing from sb with an effective stack greater then 9bb but surely we don't have a rf range at this depth especially if we are 2.5x ing?

Please don't waste your time and effort on these charts 'for total dummies' (that are nowhere near GTO, what they do is attempt to exploit the $1 population, lol). They were designed to make new players' winrates less negative so that they keep playing and generating rake (and thus affiliate commissions), but not to help them crush. You have to actually turn the brain on while playing in order to crush.

A fun fact is that these charts were initially written for iPoker's Twister when it appeared, and then they were copypasted - verbatim! - into an article about Stars' Spins when they came out. This was of course a blasphemy to poker theory because Twister has antes and Spins don't.

If you want to actually learn not to lose at Spins from cheap content, watch not chart explanations but classroom / live play videos by actual Spin regs (with all respect, KTU has never ground Spins for a living).

Where can I obtain these videos you mention. I'm not trying not to lose I want to win. Rake back is nerfed.

try Twitch

Ive had a look. Anyone to look out for? With out knowing the standard of the observed player I could pick up leaks this way? Watched one no audio and all that stood out was a call slightly wider then nash in bb vs sb shove with 58s. Now with out audio I don't know if it was an adjustment if he thinks sb is shoving a2c? tilt as he just lost aks all in vs aqo or if he thinks taking a slight equity lose when he is crippled means he can gain fe on his open shoves?

I cant afford coaching but can afford to pay say 100-200$ for video packs for decent content. Any suggestions there?

my three words input: join good stable
you will save your time and money

www.americascardroom.eu/online-poker-promotions/sit-and-go-2-0/

Maybe these will be a better fit in STT. Lottery-determined payouts (with a progressive element), including number of positions paid (determined via pre-game card draws) in a 9-player format.

(popcorn)

I trust and look forward to anything that is endorsed by Collin and Katie

I dont have enough volume that a stable would take me. And I have my own br.

Colin's book got me playing 6 Max sit and go's and made me consistently profitable for the first time. Kate's video's got me playing 180 sit and go's again profitably. Do they have spin or similar content or do you mean they are endorsing the poker room.

i know some coaches that beat 60s u could get 2/3 hours of coaching for that. if really is priceless in the aspect of future $ made through sessions. i think coffeeyay, bighustla and posibly sentin7 (not 100% sure if i made that up) have packs out. i know 1st 2 for sure have packs out. not sure of prices tho u can seach them here and PM

i know some coaches that beat 60s u could get 2/3 hours of coaching for that. if really is priceless in the aspect of future $ made through sessions. i think coffeeyay, bighustla and posibly sentin7 (not 100% sure if i made that up) have packs out. i know 1st 2 for sure have packs out. not sure of prices tho u can seach them here and PM what stakes do u play and how many games if u dont mind me asking sir? can maybe point u in righ direction

lol I have been playing spins for less then a week I play 2x $7 spins. And from an external viewpoint there is no reason to expect me to have a positive expectation at this BI.
As regards seeking online content I'm not sure I'm better of seeking material from someone beating 60$ consistently then someone crushing $7 or $15.
At $60 I'm sure play is fairly close to GTO at $7 from my admittedly very limited experience there is plenty of room for exploitative play even at surprisingly shallow effective stack depths.

First off, $60s (and 100s for that matter) spins play is not at all close to GTO (and there's no way to compute GTO 3-handed anyways). Someone beating 60s will be stronger vs both recreationals and regs then someone beating 15s (that's why they're not playing 15s), including in exploitive play (which is usually max EV play anyways). Most of their money comes from beating recreationals, so maximizing their skills vs weak players is crucial to being a winning player at higher stakes.

Whether a 60s reg coach is better value for money than a $7s reg coach depends on how much they each charge and how good of a teacher they are, but universally the players who beat higher stakes are better players in all aspects of the game then players who only beat lower stakes. Thinking that a $7s crusher can teach you more is kind of like the joke of "move up where players respect your raises". Learning from lower stakes players can also sometimes introduce misunderstanding and bad habits into your game as well which can hurt you in the long run (even if a lot of other stuff helps you win more in short run). But of course everyone is different and depending on $/hr the coach is charging you can still sometimes get better value for money with a lower stakes grinder who happens to be great at explaining things then a high stakes winner who doesn't explain things well.

Also regarding the video-pack discussion, my pack is $299, which I know is a bit outside the price range you quoted above. However it's ~16 hours of content (including the recently released bonus content) hence the price-tag. I don't know of any guide style packs which are cheaper (most are quite a bit more expensive) or longer (most are quite a bit shorter). I also have a cheaper game review pack called "coffeeyay and friends" for $99, but for newer players I think a guide-style is generally preferable (if it's within your bankroll/budget). Check out husng.com for more info on my packs (and tons of other spin content, including many free videos ).

@URagnatha Mirikrom has given you good pointers, there are streamers out there that play spins or hs hu almost daily and have past broadcasts saved, its just a matter of how much time you are willing to put into watching, and for sure its enough to beat 3s/7s

not gonna comment on video packs

I'd be interested in watching stream broadcasts, if someone has twitch accounts to recommend.

I've been watching pbogz's twitch channel for reg speed husng content and know that at least Pyha Karu has Spins content, both have saved broadcasts.

I'd be interested in hyper speed husng's, if there are any?

Coffeeyay. I don't mind paying $ 300 for that much content. Assuming I can re-watch as many times as I want. I will have to take it from a non stars bankroll though so could be a couple of weeks.

rocmar87 steams $60 spins

Is there any other website tracking Spin & Go results...Spinlyser seems down due to some issues with Stars...

Those issues being Stars changing their software so datamining spins is now impossible.