Related to this, what methods, if any do we have available for us to independently verify the payout distributions? I haven't thought deeply about it but it seems, unlike card distribution, this verification would require a sample size unachievable by any single player. In fact, several of the disincentives present in deck rigging are not present in lottery-payout rigging and the direct benefit to the site is more obvious.

I think PokerStars would never attempt anything like rigging the payout distribution. Only pointing out that the riggies will have a somewhat bolstered position and it would be nice to have a solid defense.

To clarify on the limit of the number of concurrent tables: I've found by trial and error that the only restriction is that you can't be registered at more than at 5 Spin & Gos of the same stake at a time; but once one of them has started (which, btw, happens instantly upon registration at any stake at this peak hour - how fast do the games gather!), you can register in additional ones, so it's possible to be playing at as many tables of the same stake at once as you're comfortable with. (I yet have to get comfortable with 6-tabling 3-handed, lol.) So in fact there's hardly any limit, apart from the player's reaction speed.

I have no issues with v. 4.11.11 (the latest one) and the PS7 client (though I think it should work on PS6 too), even the HUD works on .com , apparently because the HH format is the same as the .es one, which has been supported since v. 4.11.10.

PT 4.11.11 with PS6 here (though that shouldn't matter, I think), no issues, everything importing fine.

do you guys also manage to keep hud layout locket also?

Would PokerStars have the Spin and go's available in New Jersey when/if Pokerstars comes back to NJ? I think this is a great concept that rec players would love.

think we need the deal option like what we had on full tilt

There is already a training site that exclusively videos for these...
Hmmmm people learn quick...

http://spinandgopro.com/

Thanks

We in the wrong business bra...

The top 3 tiers also pay 2nd and 3rd place (10% of what 1st place is).

5*36.000
+ 10*7.200
+ 15*3.600

Yeah my bad, thanks lol

I agree that a deal button should be added. There is a glitch that prevents noting players (the notes tab never activates) a lot of the time.

Has anyone ran a variance sim on these games?

You can't take notes from the dropdown menu when you click on an avatar, but you can do it via the Notes tab (having selected the player's nick from the list). So it's a less grave issue than you thought.

What is annoying me is that Spin & Gos don't yet have a 'register in one more' popup after finishing, that other types of SnGs do have. It's a bit tiring to unminimise the lobby (which doesn't happen automatically if there are other open tables) and click 'register' there every time. (It can surely be rectified easily by a hotkey script, but such a popup would also tempt a recreational customer to play more.)

Oh dear, it indeed sometimes happens!

Do you see errors like this in the 'View Import Status' tab of 'Play Poker'?
It looks like division by zero occurs somewhere, doesn't it?

In any case, send HH and log files to PT4's support like I'm going to do, they should fix it soon, fingers crossed. (If you have no log files, tick 'Enable Logging' in 'Configure'->'Options', restart PT4 and tell it to reimport the files to reproduce the bug.)

Please don't add a deal button.

How much is it going to affect the traffic for HUSNGs? I hope those spin and gos doesnt take away all the fish.

What are Spin and Go classified as in Poker Tracker? Is there actually a filter for them?

Hyper turbo MTT 4max

So how does the rake work? Lets take $1 games for example. There are three players who each play $1 to play but the price pool is only $2 most of the time. Isn't that like 33% rake?

Looking at it that way, it's negative rake for all the the times the prize pool is not just $2. Overall, it averages out to 7% for the $1 games. (5% for $3 games, and 4% for $7 to $30)

It never hurts to have an opportunity to negotiate a bigger cut for myself when my opponents are too scared.

This is at the 50s on FTP. Not 100% how to calculate it out, but something like 12% evROI pre rake, but down 20 BIs

So it is 4% rake of the prizepool rather per player, meaning the rake per player is 1.33%. Its fairly low and seems even beatable.

No that doesn't seem right to me. If it is 4% of the prizepool it is also 4% rake per player.

Think about a 99+1 tourney. $2 is taken out of a $200 prizepool, thats 1% of total prizepool, and each player is also paying 1% rake

logic fail

I hope there's a way to self exclude from these separately, without affecting mtt, sng, cash

these are like crack