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Normal Downswing For Spin And Gos? Normal Downswing For Spin And Gos?

07-24-2017 , 05:22 PM
Hey guys I have played roughly 900 spin and gos recently and at first I was up 52+ BIs (around 62 if you count rakeback from the games), currently I am on a downswing where I am only +7 including the rakeback meaning that I'm actually in the negative not counting it. What is a normal downswing for spin and go regs as far as BIs?

My ITM is still good (39% according to playerscope), but I've just been getting crucified as far as my luck goes, just in the past day I have 60 2nd places where the difference between 2nd and first is $2, around 160 total in the last 500 games.

In the last 500 I have:
150 wins
160 2nd places
Rest are DNPs either in 3rd or 4th

Thanks for reading and have a good day.
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07-24-2017 , 08:05 PM
Depends on how good you are, but downswings in excess of 100 bi will happen to almost everyone, with 150-200 bi downswings being a normal thing as well unless you're quite solid.

Last edited by Duncelanas; 07-24-2017 at 08:11 PM.
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07-24-2017 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Duncelanas
Depends on how good you are, but downswings in excess of 100 bi are pretty easily possible for a lot of guys.
I guess I should say that I'm playing at the micro stakes, so I'm definitely not battling with the best or close to it.
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07-25-2017 , 12:50 AM
Yes, but you are also not the best or close to it.
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07-25-2017 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Duncelanas
Yes, but you are also not the best or close to it.
Damn, I thought playing $1 spin and gos made me the best, guess I got BTFO.
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07-25-2017 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 7OAD
My ITM is still good (39% according to playerscope), but I've just been getting crucified as far as my luck goes, just in the past day I have 60 2nd places where the difference between 2nd and first is $2, around 160 total in the last 500 games.
Apparently, you're talking about 888poker BLAST. The 39% ITM is a poor result there; for comparison, the theoretical average player (whose ROI would be exactly minus the rake) would have a ~37% ITM (which is the weighted average of 25% in 2x games, 50% in 5x ones, 75% in 10x-100x and 100% in 1Kx-10Kx).

My EV ITM in $5-15 BLAST was ~42% last autumn, and even so, my EV ROI was only a couple of % (in the 80% confidence interval of 0-4%). The rake is a real issue (as well as my utter laziness when it comes to study and HUD design, of course).

You seem really good at 2x multiplier games, though, with the 30% 1st place finish (1.2 times higher than the 'average' 25%). Perhaps I'd be good at them as well if I dug deep into the population tendencies (donks' ranges for openshoving 30 bb and opening to 4 bb).

Last edited by coon74; 07-25-2017 at 05:27 PM.
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07-25-2017 , 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by coon74
Apparently, you're talking about 888poker BLAST. The 39% ITM is a poor result there; for comparison, the theoretical average player (whose ROI would be exactly minus the rake) would have a ~37% ITM (which is the weighted average of 25% in 2x games, 50% in 5x ones, 75% in 10x-100x and 100% in 1Kx-10Kx).

My EV ITM in $5-15 BLAST was ~42% last autumn, and even so, my EV ROI was only a couple of % (in the 80% confidence interval of 0-4%). The rake is a real issue (as well as my utter laziness when it comes to study and HUD design, of course).

You seem really good at 2x multiplier games, though, with the 30% 1st place finish (1.2 times higher than the 'average' 25%). Perhaps I'd be good at them as well if I dug deep into the population tendencies (donks' ranges for openshoving 30 bb and opening to 4 bb).
It's around 42% for the last 500 games, although it can be a bit deceptive as ITM in 56% of tournaments is $2, while in other 40% it's just $1.50. Simultaneously doing well in the 10x can literally save your day vs ITM in the 2xers or even 5xs doesn't necessarily do that much for you.

Today I swung around 45 BIs positive, so I'm pretty much at where I was when I made the thread. Just going to keep putting in volume and see where it takes me.
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07-26-2017 , 11:12 PM
What about plo spin and go what the roi on that ?
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07-28-2017 , 12:58 PM
I'm playing $100 spin n gos. And what prize amount do they allow deals and offer guaranteed money for 2nd and 3rd?
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07-28-2017 , 03:04 PM
How can you play $100 spins and not know the basics of the payouts ?

1/ There are no deals

2/ 2nd & 3rd get paid on multipliers of 120, 240 and 12,000
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