I think I read mid-year(ish) somewhere - maybe on the DB poker site or maybe in the review thread on 2p2, can't remember

That sounds really sweet. I was wondering how the book would be delivered to people in Europe? Will it be available in e-book format or do we have to pay for shipping?

Yea, that's the current best estimate. I know it's vague, but tbh I'm not really sure. The writing's coming along well, though.

I download the sample of my kindle and it looks very thorough/thought-provoking. I was especially moved to see yaqh thanking his student Ph33ox in the intro, as if I recall correctly I set them up together in one of the coaching trees... I've always believed in networking in this game, and creating this kind of friendship/partnership was one of the ultimate goals of the trees, so cheers! And congrats on enriching the HUSNG litterature Will, if you ever need a french translator, drop me a PM

Ive just ordered this too.. currently reading the moshman book so this will be nice to read afterwards! Hope its good, ill post a review when im done reading.

haha I think you're right. Sometimes the smallest things go on to have a big effect on your life. I imagine I wouldn't be here at all if some guy down the hall in my university dorm hadn't decided a $5 home game would be a fun thing to do one afternoon in 2006. Hope you're doing well Jeff.

same

I cant wait till my copy of yaqh's book finally arrives :P

Just ordered also

Hi yaqh,

I purchased the kindle version and have been enjoying the read so far. Great work, hands down. Greetings from another PhD candidate.

I seem to have a few questions though, it would be great if you can answer here.

a) On page 47, why are hands like Ks6s missing from Hero's range, whereas Qs6s is included? Is it due to combo discounting?

b) On page 48, you mentioned "he may as well just open shove himself. Not doing so just gives the BB more strategic options without giving himself~" However, can't we induce him to 3b shove hands that he wouldn't call openjam with, which is a profitable outcome for us?

Thanks in advance,

-mela

Thanks -- sure, np

Yea, so for context, we're talking about the Hero's range at the beginning of river play on J63ssJo2o after he flatted OOP 75 BB deep, check-raised flop, and barreled turn. (Incidentally, SB in this hand is Mersenneary.)

I essentially just picked some combos of flushdraws to include. I gave some discussion of why I think we should discount flushdraws in BBs range there, but there was no real reason to include Q6ss but not K6ss. I could have done something like included 40% of each of the individual flush draw combos, but that range listing is verbose enough already. Of course, the focus there was on applying the equilibration exercise to a hand example, and the particular river starting ranges we worked with were somewhat secondary.

Page 88? So, the claim is, if we're short-stacked enough that we can't fold to a jam after minraising preflop, we should just open-shove ourselves.

The idea is basically that minraising just gives your opponent extra strategic options that he could take advantage of. Like, if it would be best for him if you had just played shove-or-fold in the first place, then he can make that effectively be the case by just playing shove-or-fold facing your minraise -- in this case, because you never fold to the jam, your open is effectively a jam and his jam is effectively a call. Or -- he can opt to use his option to flat-call your open sometimes, but he should only do this if it benefits him. So, whereas you could have forced him to play fold-or-get-it-in with your open, you still give him the option to play that game if he wants to, but you also give him an extra option that he should only use if its to his benefit. If he's playing well, this can only cost you money.

Of course, if your opponent is likely to take his extra decision-making opportunities and do something stupid with them, it might be best to give him the rope. I talk about this more in the Trends and Lessons section at the end of the chapter -- pgs 106-107.

Cheers,

Will

Thanks for your prompt reply, Will.

So in the case 2), would I be correct to understand that by NOT shoving preflop we give him the "opportunity" to play better, although he might or might not actually do so?

Yes, that's right. I mean, pretty much anything can be good if Villain plays poorly enough against it.

Hey yaqh,
I also ordered your book with your posts in this forum being the best suggestion to do so and good amazon reviews. I'm through the first chapter and really like your scientific approach, this is serious studying. Don't wanna call names, but other similar poker books look like kindergarden storybooks in comparison. Looking forward to the next chapters and made some advertisement in the german community

So the next logical step after mersseneary is this book, im going to read it until jump into 30$
Can comeone tell me the fastest way to have a copy in my house, I live in Edinburgh. ¿Amazon?

Amazon NIdel

thanks

TY ordered

does this extras come with the printed version?
Extras

HUNL Preflop Charts
Appendix A - "Big River Game" Equations: [PDF] [Mathematica, .nb]
SB bet-or-check game: [PDF] [Mathematica, .nb]
Equity distribution visualization utility for Windows. (md5sum: be9c259f91aa2f3dce0fdd313a021e3b): [ZIP, 9.5MB]

and im kinda dumb with this kind of stuff, if this stuff really learnable(sp?)? i mean how many hours do you think you need to dedicate to this to start using it the correct way and extraploing conclusions?

oh and can i put the ebook version on an ipad no prob?
thanks in advance

The extra content doesn't come with the books, but it's freely available to anyone on the book's website.

Well, as far as applying theory to improve your poker, I think it's definitely something where the more effort you put in, the more value you'll get out. As far as the book, if you wanna just read from cover to cover and not stress about things that don't immediately make sense, then I think you'll still be able to take away a lot of practical knowledge that you can apply at the tables right away. But if you want to put in a little more work to understand the game at a deeper level, that's an option also. Maybe this is something other people w/ a different perspective could opine on also -- I've definitely just put in the hours myself...

Yup, should be no problem. It's available in a variety of different formats, but I think they'll all work on an iPad.

thanks mate im thinking about ordering but the last 2 poker ebooks i ordered i didnt even get past a quarter of each

definitively im interested in putting the hours, in less than 2 months ill finish my college degree so ill have rest of the year to try out poker full time (been living off poker since like 3 years but never climbed past $100s), if i get questions where can i ask them? like some forum or smth? or just a pm is ok? (dont even know if thats ok haha)

thanks for your time

Yea, I'm happy to answer any questions that come up. Asking them somewhere public is probably best if it's something other people might be interested in too -- this forum, Poker Theory, the book's thread in Books and Publications, the book's website -- but PM is fine too.

Just bought a copy as well. I honestly didn't know there was other literature on heads up besides Mer's and Moshman's. Looking forward to a good read

just bought mine (on ebook) im gonna give it a quick look, tomorrow ill take the first dip

Gonna grab it soon too. Off to Japan for a few weeks on Sunday so this should make for some interesting airport/plane reading

/unnecessary shameless brag