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05-03-2017 , 10:46 AM

leuboyaz

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Against recs who dont iso almost at all, do you limp hands like A9o, ATo, KJo, QJo, QTo lets say 5-8 bb deep? Is it better just shove that kind of hands since the villain never iso's against limps?

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05-03-2017 , 10:57 AM

Bombardir

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Obviously it's better to valueshove. The only reason you should limp them is to induce from weaker hands.

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05-03-2017 , 01:28 PM

royalhd

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Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 274

Those hands seem like valueshoves indeed, you're getting called by worse often.

Do we have any limping range here? Because I understand the question I think. Do we prefer to see flop with certain range to jamming? For example T9, 98, 76 type hands. If not in the 5-8bb part (because we can not really limp-fold, and limp-calling seems bad with the hands I mentioned), then where is the cut-off to where we stop limping?

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05-03-2017 , 02:12 PM

leuboyaz

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That's what Im thinking too. Should we jam those hands at 10-12 BB too against those villains who never iso's?

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05-04-2017 , 02:16 AM

none888

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just look what is highest % - call os, 3bet or iso and choose action which gets you all in the most

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05-04-2017 , 06:30 AM

royalhd

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Originally Posted by none888

just look what is highest % - call os, 3bet or iso and choose action which gets you all in the most

And what if I prefer not to be ai with the part of my range with the lowest expectancy from a shove? Can we play differently with the bottom (+top) part of our range at these effective stacks? F.e. Limp-folding lowest part, limp-calling top part.

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05-04-2017 , 06:35 AM

none888

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I mean that only counts for your value hands vs his range, if he only goes all in with like top 20% of his range obviously you dont want to go all in with something like KQ, than you choose action whichever you allows to see flop the most.

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