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09-27-2010 , 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by borderline
teamsk is a guy with 90 posts. I post more advise than that monthly (and sometimes weekly). I don't need some guy at $20s coaching me. Especially when $20 players have tons of leaks as well.
I didn't think it was that great of an idea to let people on $33s and lower to do coaching tbh. Maybe even $55s neither. Reason for that is that they often still lack some of the more important things to explain/reason quick enough for the student (except for when the player would have some coaching experience though).
However, like barewire stated on msn, this will be more of a discussion kind of thing and not so much a coaching thing on the lowest stakes, though - again like barewire said - this is better done in some sort of group and not 1 on 1 so that there's a good amount of discussion.

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Can you seriously move me up so I actually get someone that plays on a real level that I would actually listen to? (not jayluf)
lol jayluf
and with the system of these trees, i doubt that's possible

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And wonderful, obviously teamsk doesn't want to be coached by me. Guy above him, don't coach him, all he is a leech on this forum

90 posts and wants to be in a community environment, sry buddy doesnt work like that.
yeah it's funny how all of a sudden people come out of the woods for something like this but never post otherwise or contribute in any way

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also i could give 2 ****s about ur "winnings"


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you're euro, why the hell are u not playing on a euro site.
rake on eurosites for small stakes hu sng's is like 10%
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09-27-2010 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by borderline
I don't need some guy at $20s coaching me.
Why did you sign up to get coached by a player at the $20s then?

obvious infraction for berating someone for no good reason in a strategy thread, gtfo with this "euro"/"he's a leech"/"doesn't want to be coached by me"/berating/joining thread just to troll stuff.
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09-27-2010 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by borderline

And wonderful, obviously teamsk doesn't want to be coached by me. Guy above him, don't coach him, all he is a leech on this forum

Although I'm pretty sure at this point nobody actually cares anymore about what borderline has to say, I still feel like I should respond to his allegations seeing how he's telling Hulk Hoden not to coach me...

I actually asked him if he had any preferences as to his coaching session and right off the bat he insisted that he wasn't interested in getting coached (" i dont think a $20 coach can help me") but was actually gonna be coaching me instead.

When I declined his offer he proceeded to insult me etc.

Anyways, I'll leave you with this gem:

mod edit: real names not allowed
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09-27-2010 , 04:34 PM
wtf? i signed up so i could help others.

No lie, he seriously thought he could coach me, and he didn't want to coach me. Why do I want to be coached by a $20 guy when all i'm told is "$5-33s is the same game". He absolutely refused to even think about getting coaching from me

He has <100 posts. I have 100+ posts a month steadily posting advise.
You don't think he's a leech, I think he is. Clearly we disagree.


I signed up to help people. Not to be helped. Especially not from him. How can I get coached from someone I don't respect?
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09-27-2010 , 04:36 PM
is it wrong that whenever i read borderline's name i think of this song? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSaC-YbSDpo&feature=fvw
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09-27-2010 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by derosnec
is it wrong that whenever i read borderline's name i think of this song? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSaC-YbSDpo&feature=fvw
no, because that's what i was thinking of when i made the name.
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09-27-2010 , 04:39 PM
Why did you sign up if you didn't want to get coached by a $20 player?

Why not just offer your free coaching services in LC/Regs thread?
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09-27-2010 , 04:40 PM
hey borderline i can do some hh review for you or something i used to play up to the $50 level but cashed out and im playing the $5s now and starting over again, im being coached by dynasty (who is a cool guy too thanks palinca) so w/e, i can do hh reviews/vid reviews or sweats or just chatting over msn, this is also my new acc here my old had like 1500 posts, if your interested pm me.

edit: peeps lets not douche the thread up

Last edited by De_Evolution; 09-27-2010 at 04:47 PM.
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09-27-2010 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by borderline

No lie, he seriously thought he could coach me, and he didn't want to coach me. Why do I want to be coached by a $20 guy when all i'm told is "$5-33s is the same game". He absolutely refused to even think about getting coaching from me
lol, you should do stand up, seriously, your logic is beyond hillarious. You're refusing to get coached by me and at the same time you're blaming me for not wanting to get coached by you?

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Originally Posted by borderline

He has <100 posts. I have 100+ posts a month steadily posting advise.
You don't think he's a leech, I think he is. Clearly we disagree.
I didn't realize there was a post count requirement for this...
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09-27-2010 , 04:52 PM
hey guys..
well i already talked to borderline about this and the spots for the level i play 20-35s are filled, but i've been a reg on ft playing husngs on there (basically all st's) for the last few months with about a 5% ROI at a over 1.3k st's (not the biggest sample i know but the first few hundred i didnt know what i was doing lol) and have received some great poker coaching from a higher stakes hu player as well as discuss hu stratagy daily with another solid winner at 20-35s..if any micro guys who didnt get in on this right away like me that still want to chat poker or mb do some sweat sessions im up for it..just pm me and we can talk about it more..i've had a lot of help in my limited time in husngs from higher stakes players and def feel like i should be giving back or helping someone like they did for me
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09-27-2010 , 08:21 PM
palinca and fastcolt sorry I havent AIMed you guys yet I've had a chronic cough all weekend and still hasn't gone away and feel like I'd be pretty annoying behind a microphone right now so as soon as I get rid of this thing I'll start workin with u guys
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09-27-2010 , 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by borderline
This might not work for me after all.

teamsk is a guy with 90 posts. I post more advise than that monthly (and sometimes weekly). I don't need some guy at $20s coaching me. Especially when $20 players have tons of leaks as well.

Can you seriously move me up so I actually get someone that plays on a real level that I would actually listen to? (not jayluf)


And wonderful, obviously teamsk doesn't want to be coached by me. Guy above him, don't coach him, all he is a leech on this forum

90 posts and wants to be in a community environment, sry buddy doesnt work like that.

also i could give 2 ****s about ur "winnings"
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you're euro, why the hell are u not playing on a euro site.

WTF. This is what I get for forgetting about your serial doucheness on the forums and thinking you might actually want to participate in a scheme like this without acting like a complete ass.

Did you even read the OP? You signed up in the micros, you get assigned a 20$ level player. End of story. You gave me your screennames and I sharkscoped everyone of you, I don't see how you think you're qualified to be any higher in the tree anyway. (Yes I know, you are a very good theorist who just has issues with tilt).





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Originally Posted by spamz0r
I didn't think it was that great of an idea to let people on $33s and lower to do coaching tbh. Maybe even $55s neither. Reason for that is that they often still lack some of the more important things to explain/reason quick enough for the student (except for when the player would have some coaching experience though).
However, like barewire stated on msn, this will be more of a discussion kind of thing and not so much a coaching thing on the lowest stakes, though - again like barewire said - this is better done in some sort of group and not 1 on 1 so that there's a good amount of discussion.


lol jayluf
and with the system of these trees, i doubt that's possible


yeah it's funny how all of a sudden people come out of the woods for something like this but never post otherwise or contribute in any way





rake on eurosites for small stakes hu sng's is like 10%
I disagree, first of all I clearly specified post counts were absolutely not a factor here, one of the ideas was precisely to get lurkers more involved by showing how good a community this is. So far it has been a success. I think it's a bit of a stretch to call someone with few posts a leecher, who knows what they do with there time. The simple fact they are signing up for this is a testament to their desire to give back and participate and this should be respected.

As for assigning 30$ as coaches, well coaching is just the name I gave to it, of course they have leaks but that doesn't mean they can't help a lower ranked player substantially. Of course their advice is to be taken with a grain of salf but I'm sure they are given it with that disclaimer. It's about discussing the game constructively with some one with half a brain, and expanding your poker network.


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Originally Posted by borderline
wtf? i signed up so i could help others.

No lie, he seriously thought he could coach me, and he didn't want to coach me. Why do I want to be coached by a $20 guy when all i'm told is "$5-33s is the same game". He absolutely refused to even think about getting coaching from me

He has <100 posts. I have 100+ posts a month steadily posting advise.
You don't think he's a leech, I think he is. Clearly we disagree.


I signed up to help people. Not to be helped. Especially not from him. How can I get coached from someone I don't respect?
You are so generous and post so much I should respect you. I would if half your posts weren't gratuitious insults. No, the fact you are giving advice doesn't mean it's ok to be a douche. I don't think he's a leech. What is wrong with you, JFC? None of you guys ever had <100 posts? How would you react if your first attempt to join in on the fun were greeted by similar "gtfo you dirty leech" reactions?


Borderline, please respect the work I put in this and go troll another thread.

On a side note, I'm willing to challenge you to a duel (I know the first one you challenged me to you gave up on pathetically, but whatever it's worth a shot). We play the number of games you want on the site you want, if you win I give you 400$ (probably doubling your bankroll), if I win you self-ban permanently. You will be allowed to rejoin the forums and get your little adrenaline rush, but with the location I decide. I'm a breaven 22$ player on a downswing, most certainly no match for you on a decent sample. Please do not clog up the thread with your answers (this will be my only post on this subject).

Last edited by palinca; 09-27-2010 at 09:28 PM.
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09-27-2010 , 09:27 PM
eh i told borderline what i think of this on msn.

basically i think its a huge douchebag move by him but we should have expected that.
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09-27-2010 , 09:32 PM
borderline, teamsk could easily beat higher stakes if he wanted to but he enjoys the extremely low variance and plays a good amount of tables...the guy made 30k at an average stake of $10 fo ****s sake. Your whole "I'm above everyone" is a ****ing joke and is getting annoying.
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09-27-2010 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by teamsk
lol, you should do stand up, seriously, your logic is beyond hillarious. You're refusing to get coached by me and at the same time you're blaming me for not wanting to get coached by you?



I didn't realize there was a post count requirement for this...
I lol too when he said this.
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09-27-2010 , 09:55 PM
Borderline, I will coach you. I could turn you into a great player, eliminate that tilt.
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09-27-2010 , 10:02 PM
There are some low stakes regs at 2p2 who I could see borderline whining about being paired with, but teamsk is NOT one of them. He is crushing the lower stakes and probably understands how to beat them better than even high stakes regs. Obviously considering borderline has had mediocre results at the low stakes games there's a lot he could learn from such a player.

imo ban borderline. why is an unsuccessful $6 player able to act like a douche and be influential in these forums?
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09-27-2010 , 11:18 PM
First of all, thanks a lot to Newff and ConcreteDonkey for coming to my rescue

Seriously though, I realize I'm not exactly the most involved member of the HUNL community and I don't really know borderline. But he came across as very confrontational and rude in our conversation and really didn't seem to have the slightest idea what this whole coaching tree thingy is supposed to be about.

After calling me a dumbass, ****ing ****** etc. he got to the point:

borderline: i'll help you
borderline: but i doubt you can help me


teamsk: anyways, if you don't wanna get coached that totally fine by me, just let me know so i dont waste my time
borderline: i figure i coach you
borderline: thats how it works
teamsk: sorry, not interested
borderline: lol
borderline: ok teamsk
borderline: tell me why you should coach me
borderline: what makes you better than spamz or rypac or mattux1
teamsk: who said i was better than those guys? are they lining up to be your coach?
borderline: i get advise from them daily



Anyways, no need to blow this out of proportion, good riddance!
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09-27-2010 , 11:27 PM
Almost forgot,

@Spamz0r, Rypac, mattux1: I obvioulsy challenge all three of you to a grudge match with the winner being worthy of becoming borderline's personal coach
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09-27-2010 , 11:27 PM
lol borderline, teamsk
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09-28-2010 , 01:35 AM
I can only pray to god that borderline crosses a line some day and gets permanently banned.

Keep up the good work, palinca.
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09-28-2010 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Pax
I have to drop out of this Too much going on to think about poker. I'm at the very bottom so at least I'm not abandoning students. Maybe this will open a spot for another micros player.
Hey sorry to hear that. I was paired with him (me being his "coach") and I'll accept another person if I have too. If not then I'm fine coaching only one student.
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09-28-2010 , 07:05 PM
Bleh, pmed two coaches so far no replies.
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09-28-2010 , 07:51 PM
I can prolly do some video review or sweat some micros players if there is a spot available or something.

I'm "What she said" on FTP.
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09-28-2010 , 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Obey the Odds
Hey sorry to hear that. I was paired with him (me being his "coach") and I'll accept another person if I have too. If not then I'm fine coaching only one student.
Can I have this open spot?

Since i have few post I cant PM you.
If you can give me email I can send you my details.



Do I still need ask permission or pass some qualifications from palinca?
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