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09-21-2009 , 11:10 AM
good post, thank you for putting in the time and effort for this
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09-21-2009 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by TimS-
Well done.
lol.
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09-21-2009 , 01:50 PM
This was really informative, I wish villain wasn't so tight so you had more tough spots to talk about tho.
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09-21-2009 , 03:08 PM
Very nicely done, and a fantastic advertisement for spamz's coaching.

It felt nice to read this and agree with a ton (raising pre OOP, not getting tricked by zomg I just hit a pair with no previous post aggression I have to call in hand #37, constantly thinking about hands in the context of the opponent and not just what is standard in this "spot" etc) as well as pick up a few things and even disagree with a point or two Thanks spamz.
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09-21-2009 , 07:32 PM
Where do you disagree mers? Thanks a lot for responses everyone so far, but I was hoping at least some hands would give some discussion worthy material tbh
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09-21-2009 , 07:52 PM
Wow nice. More please!
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09-21-2009 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by spamz0r
Where do you disagree mers? Thanks a lot for responses everyone so far, but I was hoping at least some hands would give some discussion worthy material tbh
probably on spots where I am wrong Just little things, hand 34 I prefer/have no preference between 175 to 150 pre with this effective/villain. An old thread I remember showed a pretty big difference between super solid player's opinions on what is best here (from 2x-11x lol) which I think is interesting. There was another of that general sort of nitty point, mostly I found myself nodding my head as well (down to the betsizing a lot of times) or learning new things/correct reasonings.

I'd also like to emphasize your point of LEADING on 455 boards with 86, this should be a fistpump lead. I leading a ton OOP in limped pots on dryish flops anyway and we has the nuts with no showdown value.
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09-21-2009 , 09:08 PM
reminds me of a similar hand i played today
villain was very aggro C/Ring a ton..

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $40(BB) Replayer
Villain ($1,275)
Hero ($1,665)

Dealt to Hero 86

Hero raises to $80, Villain calls $40,

FLOP ($160) 544

Villain check, Hero bets $120, Villain raises to $360, Hero raises to $1,585 (AI)



too spewy?
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09-21-2009 , 09:10 PM
Awesome HH review thanks alot spam.
also one thing I disagree on when it comes to the end game. Vs this particular opponent, the ones who fold soo much BBs deep. You keep stressing that calling AI's with J8, 910, and 810 are the best plays when your about 6-8 BBs. I duno, I would think the most +EV play is to fold these BBs and instead shove the next hand BTNs with ATC since you a) at least win the pot pre or b) get lucky, hit your card and win which you would also need to do in the BB calls w/ 910 ect.
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09-21-2009 , 09:11 PM
no, defenitly fine vs someone who checkraises a ton; note that he needs to be one of those people who just randomly checkraises because some people don't do it on boards like this because they know they can't rep much
also note there's a flushdraw out there which makes shoving a bit more marginal
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09-21-2009 , 09:12 PM
i dont remember him saying they were the best plays.. just nash/sage says calling there is unexploitable
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09-21-2009 , 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by spamz0r
note that he needs to be one of those people who just randomly checkraises because some people don't do it on boards like this because they know they can't rep much
and that he was.. thanks for the reply
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09-21-2009 , 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Royle Bluntson
Awesome HH review thanks alot spam.
also one thing I disagree on when it comes to the end game. Vs this particular opponent, the ones who fold soo much BBs deep. You keep stressing that calling AI's with J8, 910, and 810 are the best plays when your about 6-8 BBs. I duno, I would think the most +EV play is to fold these BBs and instead shove the next hand BTNs with ATC since you a) at least win the pot pre or b) get lucky, hit your card and win which you would also need to do in the BB calls w/ 910 ect.
passing up on ev+ spots with 7bb's and wait for a better spot is just lol imo
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09-21-2009 , 09:22 PM
i just have no clue what EV means and never did lol..

I'm just oldschool in still thinking that pushing>calling AI in all instances i guess.
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09-22-2009 , 03:25 PM
This is really awesome. Thanks for doing this, I take back my boo from your poohbah post!
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09-22-2009 , 04:18 PM
I think I'm in love..lol.

great job spamz
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09-22-2009 , 06:02 PM
I think it would be realy nice if the HH reviews started at the lowest lvls and gradually went up so we could see the diferences and the adjustments at each lvl.

eg. first 11$, second 22$ ....last 220$+ (if there is any HH)
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09-22-2009 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Des_Astar
I think it would be realy nice if the HH reviews started at the lowest lvls and gradually went up so we could see the diferences and the adjustments at each lvl.

eg. first 11$, second 22$ ....last 220$+ (if there is any HH)
fwiw, it's the first hh i received so far, and only one (besides someone sending me a 17 hands hh but i asked him to reconsider that because it didnt really get to endgame) rest of people just looking to get a good one imo
but i do kind of like your idea although i'm quite sure random fish on $22s don't differ that much from random fish on $220s... just a certain style that a fish brings along with him
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09-22-2009 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by spamz0r
fwiw, it's the first hh i received so far, and only one (besides someone sending me a 17 hands hh but i asked him to reconsider that because it didnt really get to endgame) rest of people just looking to get a good one imo
but i do kind of like your idea although i'm quite sure random fish on $22s don't differ that much from random fish on $220s... just a certain style that a fish brings along with him

i agree 11$-33$ (or even 55$?) should be prety much the same so you could ask people participating to send HH vs LAGs, TAGs, Loose Passives etc villains at low stakes. You could gather all HH and organize them in a linear way so we could see the whole context
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09-22-2009 , 11:19 PM
Very good review spam. Read it twice. Thanks again for doing this
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09-27-2009 , 05:25 PM
bookmarking this and the other thread to read later tyty
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10-06-2009 , 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by spamz0r
This is really close imo, because he's to tight.
Blinds 150 so you have to call 580 here in a pot of 880 which means you need less than 40% equity (39.726% to be exact).
Vs a range of 22+,Ax,Kx,any two broadwaycards you only have 36.58% equity so folding looks slightly better if you dont think he'll spazz with suited connected hands (which I think he will for SOME part but not enough to make it worth it).
can you please explain how u calculated equity in those hands?
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10-06-2009 , 07:22 AM
I can answer that question.

You need to call 580 to win 1460 (580+880).

580/1460 = 0.39726 so you need 39,726% equity to be ev0.

If we pokerstove our hand vs that range (http://www.pokerstove.com/ ):

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 36.580% 36.00% 00.58% 286044417 4588652.00 { Jh8d }
Hand 1: 63.420% 62.84% 00.58% 499287335 4588652.00 { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, QTs+, JTs, A2o+, K2o+, QTo+, JTo }
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10-07-2009 , 01:51 PM
great post.
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10-07-2009 , 06:45 PM
Great work Spamz0r! TY!
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