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07-08-2013 , 09:00 PM
Hi everyone,

After months of hard work, phl500 and I are proud to present the newest hyper turbo video package for HUSNG.com: Crushing Hyper Turbo HUSNGs.

Phil and I have teamed up to create the best possible video pack that we could for this format. We've included slides, hand examples and game play in over 6 hours of lessons with one goal in mind: To help hard working players reach their goals in the ever-growing, popular format of hyper turbo HUSNGs.

We held nothing back in this pack, and while it was a lot of hard work making the series, we had a lot of fun doing it together.

A little bit more about the two of us:

I, "zZzTILT" have been playing hyper turbos for just under 2 years now. I've had good experience from the levels of $60-200, though I started at the $30s. I have a 6 max cash and heads up cash background prior to getting into hypers, playing as high as 5-10 no limit.

My lifetime hyper turbo graph is below. I play exclusively on PokerStars.



phl500 has been playing hypers for about 1.5 years now, and HUSNGs since 2010. He started years ago in 6 max/FR NL, and played some 6 max PLO as well.

Here is Phil's lifetime hyper turbo graph.



In addition to our player results, Phil and I also have had a lot of positive feedback with private coaching. You can view the references, information and feedback on our coaching pages here (zZzTILT & phl500).

Below is a complete rundown of what you can expect to find in the video pack. We've included some free clips taken directly from the pack as well.

Introduction


zZzTILT and phl500 discuss the contents of the video pack, their background and success in the game.

Preflop Small Blind Play (13:08)

- Readless 25bb strategy (see free clip below)

--- Population tendencies

--- Openraising vs Limping (the bottom range of hands)

--- Facing a 3-bet shove

--- Facing a non all in 3-bet

- Shallow play (16-10bb)

- Under 10bb play

- Gameplan against aggressive opponent



Big Blind Play (13:38)

- Readless 25bb strategy

--- Population tendencies

--- Flatting, 3-bet shoving, non all in 3-betting

--- Playing against 3x raises

--- Playing against limps

- Shallow play

- Gameplan against an aggressive opponent

Continuation Betting and Barreling (45:43)

- Planning a hand

- Readless strategy

- Common barreling situations

- When a bad card is actually a good card

- Value betting

- Adjustments

- Getting barreled

- Limped pots

- Examples/hand histories

Check/Raising and Playing Against Check/Raises
(32:56)

- General Strategy

--- Factors to consider before check/raising (see free clip below)

--- Sizing

--- Which boards/range should I check/raise

- When to barrel

- Check/raising the turn or river

- Facing a check/raise

- Examples/hand histories



Donking & Playing Against Donkbets (31:04)

- General strategy

--- Factors to consider before donk betting

--- Sizing

--- Which boards/range should I donkbet?

- When to barrel

- Donking the turn or river

- Facing a donkbet

- Examples/hand histories

Interpretation of HUD Stats (20:23)

- Common mistakes when interpreting stats

- Correlation of different stats

- Analyzing different opponents

Analyzing Population Tendencies And One's Own Game with PokerTracker 4 (7:50)

- How to analyze population tendencies

- How to check the EV of certain situations

Video Review - zZzTILT (46:32)

Matt reviews his own play, along with Phil, on two tables at the $60 and $100 hyper turbo level on PokerStars.

Video Review - phl500 (44:57)

Phil and Matt review Phil's play on two tables at the $60 and $100 hyper turbo level on PokerStars.

zZzTILT vs phl500 - Reg Wars (39:04)

Matt and Phil review a two tabling session that they played against each other. Free clip below.



Leakfinder - not_so_good0 (58:48)

Matt and Phil review $60 and $100 hyper regular not_so_good0's play on two tables.

Mental Game and Other Non Strategy Topics (24:59)

- Tilt

- Motivation

- Learning/studying

- Playing long sessions and multi tabling

- Playing A-Game

- Not focusing on EV and $ winnings

- Playing professionally

- Bankroll management

- Notetaking

  • The cost of the video pack is $199.
  • The size of the pack is 724mb, it is in MP4 format and it is 6 hours and 19 minutes in length
  • You can pay via paypal, debit card, credit card or skrill.

You can purchase the video pack by clicking here.

Last edited by ChicagoRy; 11-29-2018 at 08:31 PM.
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07-08-2013 , 09:01 PM
In the next 24 hours I will also release a tool that I build myself, the zZzHyperHelper, as a separate piece of software. A few people who saw the video pack have asked about this tool, it'll go on sale tonight or tomorrow and I'll do a separate thread for it later this week.
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07-09-2013 , 12:29 PM
This video pack is easily worth the money, it is constructed very logically, all of the aspects of hyper turbos and wider concepts of winning poker are covered. It is made easy to understand even for the worst learners and all of the theory presented in it is backed with empirical data, so you know that even when things that they suggest on doing, might sound a bit odd, really do work in practice. I believe that this video pack can take everyone´s game to whole another level, as it did with mine.
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07-09-2013 , 03:18 PM
I was just recently reading the coaching thread of zZzTilt and was thinking about purchasing a training. As I am a poor German student at the moment I cant afford more than 1 hour - and I think this wont be enough.
But the pack is still within my possibilities and Ill def buy it.
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07-09-2013 , 07:59 PM
Hey , I am really interested on purchasing a video pack for hyper HuSNG , can you tell me which is the best pack for a player like me , I have play around 2k hyper hu sng at 3.50$ and 7$ was more of a MTTSNG or STT player and I want to improve and keep moving on stack on HuSNG. Thank you in advance.
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07-09-2013 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by FlexinGreenT
Hey , I am really interested on purchasing a video pack for hyper HuSNG , can you tell me which is the best pack for a player like me , I have play around 2k hyper hu sng at 3.50$ and 7$ was more of a MTTSNG or STT player and I want to improve and keep moving on stack on HuSNG. Thank you in advance.
Hi,

For your buyin level, this is my advice:

1) Determine your budget.

2) If you're not planning to be a dedicated player in this game, simply use our 200+ free videos, the 2p2 heads up sng and husng.com forum as a resource. It will cost you some time, but no money, and you will see a good quality of advice that can help you move up levels (depending on your commitment and skill).

3) If you plan to be dedicated to this game and want to put in a modest amount of money (say $50-75), then I would suggest the standard pack (400 videos for $50 from dozens of authors) for a big variety and good per video cost/value, or the Coffeeyay video pack (about 9 hours for $75) if you want something that is a lot more focused on teaching you how to improve your game, study, have the right habits, solve situations on your own.

4) If you want the best, the video pack in this thread is basically our newest and best current guide to this format. The other packs have good value, and some do different things than others, but if you have $200 to spend currently, I recommend this to many hyper players.

Let me know if that answers your questions. The difference between free and paid is not going to be "$100 level success vs unprofitable player," variables like your dedication, mental control and skillset will be the difference between two such extremes. The videos can help you get there faster, assuming you are a dedicated player.
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07-10-2013 , 03:02 AM
Comparison with Chadders' pack?

Is there much overlap in the readless play analysis?

What's better about this than Chadders?
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07-10-2013 , 03:19 AM
Nice job with the vids, looking foward to get them soon.
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07-10-2013 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ferris.shrugged
Comparison with Chadders' pack?

Is there much overlap in the readless play analysis?

What's better about this than Chadders?
It's been awhile since I looked at any of Chadders pack, but just looking at the 25bb readless charts, we do have a lot of differences.

I don't think it's fair to compare straight up, since Chadders was released at the end of 2011, whereas Phil and I just made our's in June 2013. But to answer your question directly, absolutely differences in readless play, and I would imagine that there are differences elseware as well, since readless play would be the most likely to be similar/repeated info and is not.
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07-14-2013 , 04:53 PM
This video pack is the best i have seen untill now! I feel like i have Chadders pack and Bernardc postflop video pack in a single pack and improved version. In my opinion the only pack that could overcome this video pack is one made by top heads-up players like mrgr33n13 and skaiwalkurrr otherwise forget it guys . Thank you zZztilt and phl500 for making this pack, the strategies presented on this pack are very hard to work on alone and even with a poker coach it demands many hours of coaching to finally applied it right.
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07-15-2013 , 12:22 AM
good stuff thanks
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07-15-2013 , 03:30 AM
I know you guys are great crushers, but:
I don't think the video pack is suitable for micro/lowstakes (until approx 30$). It ist just wayyyy too loose. Its not necessary to 3bet and call OOP as much as you suggest, sorry. And to bluff barrel is also something you won't need at lower stakes. It may help on 60+ stakes, but not on the small ones!!

plus: Some stuff like "who we are" and "mental game" are not nessesarry in a video pack.

Would'nt buy it again. Its too expensive for my limit (15-30).

Just my 2 cent.
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07-15-2013 , 03:39 AM
Thanks for the feedback Alpha.

Just to note: The introduction video was released free and is not included in the minutes total advertised. We just threw the download in there in case a user did not watch the embedded free clip.

The 25 minute mental game was a video done by phl500. We felt it added some value and completeness to the pack, as a lot of players struggle with things such as tilt, playing their A-game (and focusing), the professional life style, bankroll management, playing long sessions and a few of the other topics covered in the video.

I will make sure that Matt and/or Phil address the lower stakes suitability feedback when they wake up tomorrow, as they are best suited to respond to that, and I think it's the most serious part of your feedback. Thanks again.
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07-15-2013 , 04:59 AM
I would certainly disagree about pack being too loose for lowstakes.
The average population stats, provided in the video pack, and on which the readless strategy was built, pretty much matched up with my population stats for 15's, with deviation of less than 5% - for stats like preflop open/cbet/check-raise, etc.

Though I certainly wouldn't recommend 3bet shoving wide bluff range vs a wide fish opener deep. It works great against a reg, but a recreational player will bet/call you on K6o readless for 25bb's.

Also, I wouldn't recommend going for a lot of 3barrel bluffs on 1.5's and 3.5's. As far as I remember:
a)people don't 3bet enough pre there - they have plenty Ax in their flat range
b)they don't c/r draws otf nearly as much, so you can't exclude them from their range and barrel flush cards as much
c)they definitely can flat a TP on a really wet board, just being passive in general
d)average recreational player will c/c 2pair/trips for multiple streets, regardless of the board
e)they flat QQ+ pre
all those factors combined made me give up on barreling readless at the micro's, but even at 7's it was already okay, and on 15's I feel I can do it a lot

Overall, great pack. Wish there'd be more content on dealing with check/raises, and board texture-specific stuff.
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07-15-2013 , 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Alpha Kenny Buddy
I know you guys are great crushers, but:
I don't think the video pack is suitable for micro/lowstakes (until approx 30$). It ist just wayyyy too loose. Its not necessary to 3bet and call OOP as much as you suggest, sorry. And to bluff barrel is also something you won't need at lower stakes. It may help on 60+ stakes, but not on the small ones!!

plus: Some stuff like "who we are" and "mental game" are not nessesarry in a video pack.

Would'nt buy it again. Its too expensive for my limit (15-30).

Just my 2 cent.
i didn't yet watch the vidpack, but just from the use of the term "necessary" i can derive that you are not striving for maximum EV play. to play a hand instead of folding it is either plus EV or not, saying it is not necessary to play a hand (for what, to be a winning player?) is not helpful thinking. in my experience at low stakes, you can be even looser because opponents are less aggressive postflop, so if anything their ranges should be too tight.
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07-15-2013 , 12:09 PM
Looks pretty cool but I don't grind hu hts, do you think there's enough value in it for a 6m ht reg who plays $60s+? I would assume it'd be a fine buy for me personally, but interested in a couple other opinions.

Thx for any response
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07-15-2013 , 05:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha Kenny Buddy
I know you guys are great crushers, but:
I don't think the video pack is suitable for micro/lowstakes (until approx 30$). It ist just wayyyy too loose. Its not necessary to 3bet and call OOP as much as you suggest, sorry. And to bluff barrel is also something you won't need at lower stakes. It may help on 60+ stakes, but not on the small ones!!

plus: Some stuff like "who we are" and "mental game" are not nessesarry in a video pack.

Would'nt buy it again. Its too expensive for my limit (15-30).

Just my 2 cent.
Hey, thanks a lot for the feedback here. Let me respond to each of the points one by one.

For calling OOP light, the biggest leak that I see in lower stakes is that players fold way too many hands, especially OOP. The lighter hands that we advocate calling with in this pack, they consistently show up as being higher expectation to call with than to fold over the long term, and that EV adds up quite a bit. If you're folding hands like 65o, Q6o, T6o etc. OOP vs a minraise regularly at the $7s, $30s or $300s, you're making a mistake that is valuable to correct.

Bluffing postflop is a skill that is usually used more in higher stakes than lower stakes, you are right. Why is that? The reason for that is that you’ll often times encounter opponents who are passive and don’t like to fold a lot postflop. So correct valuebetting becomes more important here. But that doesn’t mean you should never bluff-barrel or bluff check/raise. You will still encounter tighter opponents and even against the avg. villain it can be good depending on the board and run-out.

In this video pack we gave out a basic strategy but our main focus was to give you all the factors to consider before making a decision and show you adaptions when you have more reads.
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07-15-2013 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jdawg91
Looks pretty cool but I don't grind hu hts, do you think there's enough value in it for a 6m ht reg who plays $60s+? I would assume it'd be a fine buy for me personally, but interested in a couple other opinions.

Thx for any response
Hi Jdawg,

This answer depends entirely on how often you are heads up.

There won't be much value for situations of 6, 5, 4 or even 3 players in this pack.

For heads up situations, it should be very relevant and really help build you a strategy that is far superior to what the average 6 max player uses when they get heads up.

So when deciding is a good buy for you, just look at it purely from a heads up viewpoint: the amount of times and the money difference that you play for heads up in these 6 max games, is that worth a purchase to improve? If the answer is yes, then I would feel comfortable with the purchase.
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07-15-2013 , 05:53 PM
Yea I had a chat with OP on skype and for sure gonna be valuable enough to make it an easy purchase; was thinking that anyway but just wanted confirmation.

Yes, a HU only video doesn't in theory improve 3-6 handed play, but getting better at HU usually improves your overall game and if anything, can just help you think more 'intelligently' about spots.

Tyty and looking fwd to start watching it this week
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07-15-2013 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoRy
Hi Jdawg,

This answer depends entirely on how deep you are when reaching heads up.
fixed your post imo, he should be reaching the heads up a little more often than 1/3 of the time imo
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07-15-2013 , 06:06 PM
Well the pack is for hyper turbos. I assume he's going to be in those stack sizes quite often when heads up.

Of course, there's some push or fold (which also happens in hypers and is good to know), but I'd imagine hyper turbo depth is what you want to study for the end of a 6 max SNG.

Versus say a turbo pack, which I'd recommend against for a 6 max SNG player, because the 40-75bb stuff is not likely to be similar situations.

Nice catch on the 1/3 thing. I should've just said "how often you play" I suppose hehe, thanks.
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07-16-2013 , 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by zZzTILT
Hey, thanks a lot for the feedback here. Let me respond to each of the points one by one.

For calling OOP light, the biggest leak that I see in lower stakes is that players fold way too many hands, especially OOP. The lighter hands that we advocate calling with in this pack, they consistently show up as being higher expectation to call with than to fold over the long term, and that EV adds up quite a bit. If you're folding hands like 65o, Q6o, T6o etc. OOP vs a minraise regularly at the $7s, $30s or $300s, you're making a mistake that is valuable to correct.

Bluffing postflop is a skill that is usually used more in higher stakes than lower stakes, you are right. Why is that? The reason for that is that you’ll often times encounter opponents who are passive and don’t like to fold a lot postflop. So correct valuebetting becomes more important here. But that doesn’t mean you should never bluff-barrel or bluff check/raise. You will still encounter tighter opponents and even against the avg. villain it can be good depending on the board and run-out.

In this video pack we gave out a basic strategy but our main focus was to give you all the factors to consider before making a decision and show you adaptions when you have more reads.
I can confirm that playing very loose OOP $3 and $7 is profitable. Probably you can play more hands OOP in lower stakes than higher because average player is very passive, and check back more and so give more free equity or cheaper SD-s.

Barreling is so-so. You basically cant read their hands because e.g. on 9Q3hh board they play Q9dd and 83o in the same way. Some of the call all streets, some of them check-raise etc.
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07-16-2013 , 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Alpha Kenny Buddy
I know you guys are great crushers, but:
I don't think the video pack is suitable for micro/lowstakes (until approx 30$). It ist just wayyyy too loose. Its not necessary to 3bet and call OOP as much as you suggest, sorry. And to bluff barrel is also something you won't need at lower stakes. It may help on 60+ stakes, but not on the small ones!!

plus: Some stuff like "who we are" and "mental game" are not nessesarry in a video pack.

Would'nt buy it again. Its too expensive for my limit (15-30).

Just my 2 cent.
The barrel spots recommended in zzzTILT's pack are extremely standard and very profitable against fish. Not barreling the example situations is a clear leak. I was at the $7's a while ago and I can confirm that barrel bluffing alot and flatting wide OOP is very profitable. The population tendency at $7's is similar to zzz's 60-200 stakes--33% fold to turn barrel and 40%+ fold to river barrel. Only difference is that at low stakes, being ALOT tighter vs NAI 3bets is better as opponents rarely 3bet bluff and only 3bet a very tight value range.

Based on what you wrote in this post, trying out the recommendations in the pack could drastically improve your winrate.

Edit: I think this is not unusual, but my expectation from flatting minraises with hands like 72o, 94s, 63o is actually better than folding. (although I only flat these when I believe its profitable so this skews the results)
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07-16-2013 , 08:27 PM
I want to buy but lost my credit card can I send on stars?
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07-16-2013 , 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by CutchaLosses
I want to buy but lost my credit card can I send on stars?
Our standard payment options are paypal, credit card, debit card and skrill.

If none of those work, we can see what we can do, and ask that people email membership@husng.com.

I'll shoot you a PM now though to see if we can find a method that works for you, thanks.
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