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07-23-2016 , 09:41 AM

obbudsman

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Villain limp 3/15, limp-cbet 0/1

Just give up here?

We can't fold out A high, as he shouldn't have it in his range this shallow, but he also doesn't have many Kx. Probe to fold out Q high, 4x and air?

PokerStars - $6.85+$0.15|30/60 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 7.8 BB (VPIP: 35.71, PFR: 22.73, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 30)
Hero (BB): 8.87 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5

SB calls 0.5 BB, Hero checks

Flop: (2 BB, 2 players) T

Hero checks, SB checks

Turn: (2 BB, 2 players) J

Hero checks, SB checks

River: (2 BB, 2 players) K

Hero ?

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07-23-2016 , 10:33 AM

thegibson

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on a paired board I doubt 4x is folding to a 1- 1.5bbs probe. I would just give up, I mean villain gave you 5 cards for free. take the showdown and pray he has a hand like 62s lol

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07-23-2016 , 01:00 PM

hsvfan123

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Probe turn, and River dont think villain has lot of Tx or Jx in his checkback range

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07-23-2016 , 04:37 PM

obbudsman

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Originally Posted by hsvfan123

Probe turn, and River dont think villain has lot of Tx or Jx in his checkback range

Well, he can/should be checking back plenty of Tx.

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07-24-2016 , 05:02 AM

none888

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you can stab this on river, but I wouldn't do it because Imo fish likes to hero call in these spots a lot. Can also probe turn vs very high cbet people

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07-24-2016 , 06:57 AM

obbudsman

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Originally Posted by none888

you can stab this on river, but I wouldn't do it because Imo fish likes to hero call in these spots a lot. Can also probe turn vs very high cbet people

Probe turn vs very low cbet you mean right? Very low cbet freq says they check back air often. Vs a high cbet freq, on such a good flop to cbet, a check back is often trap and showdown heavy, so they won't fold to a turn probe.

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07-24-2016 , 09:13 AM

none888

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No I mean vs high cbet, that means they cbet all Jx, Tx

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07-24-2016 , 02:05 PM

obbudsman

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Originally Posted by none888

No I mean vs high cbet, that means they cbet all Jx, Tx

Yeah I guess probing turn is fine vs both very high and very low cbet%, as in both cases it's more likely villain has air on the turn.

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07-24-2016 , 11:05 PM

grinder4all

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Lol, you REALLY overestimate your fold equity in pretty much every thread. Villain will fistpump SNAP 4x.

Why? Because you've already told him you have no Jx because of the turn, and you'd have shoved Kx pre, so you can't rep that. You also likely bet good Tx OTT too.

Easy call with 4x. Easy call with ace-high too. You rep absolutely nothing and seem to like probing rivers 'just cos'. You can fold out some 9x and Qx, that's it. Not totally convinced villain should fold Qx either.

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