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09-24-2016 , 03:39 PM
What is everyones standard play here?

The hand is very early in the match so no reads

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $6.71 Buy-in (20/40 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37439639

BB: 1,247 (31.2 bb)
Hero (SB): 1,753 (43.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4 Q
Hero raises to 80, BB calls 40

Flop: (160) A 4 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (160) 8 (2 players)
BB bets 120, Hero ???
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09-25-2016 , 05:39 AM
It's already been 2 levels...no reads?
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09-25-2016 , 06:28 AM
I'm folding this turn, our hand isn't very strong and has very few outs to improve.

I'd probably call a half pot bet.
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09-25-2016 , 09:42 AM
Folding as well.
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09-25-2016 , 10:30 AM
I limp pre. As played I cbet small on flop. As played, meh no big deal either way (but probably tiny bit better as a fold after taking account win-rate maxing).
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09-25-2016 , 01:06 PM
Adam is da man. Listen to him

Agree with everything he said. Even tho I am a low stake fish, haha
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09-25-2016 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by coffeeyay
I limp pre. As played I cbet small on flop. As played, meh no big deal either way (but probably tiny bit better as a fold after taking account win-rate maxing).
How much are we supposed to limp at this depth (~30bb)? Is it a big mistake to minraise even a hand like Q4o instead of limping? Sorry for a semi-off-topic message tho.
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09-25-2016 , 02:42 PM
I would not call it a mistake.

But you have to think about your overall ranges, not just a single hand.

Ask yourself the questions: why is limping better? Why should I minraise?

What are cons? What are pros?

You can learn a lot just by asking questions. Go for it, man.
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09-25-2016 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by coffeeyay
I limp pre. As played I cbet small on flop. As played, meh no big deal either way (but probably tiny bit better as a fold after taking account win-rate maxing).
Thanks for the reply

I don't have a limping range at this depth, but maybe I should, what sort of hands are you limping at this depth and why?

I don't see any merit in cbetting small here (or at all) , we are always getting called by better hands and are giving good odds to drawing hands which will likely have two overs as well?
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09-26-2016 , 03:34 AM
Dom, these are very valuable information. U should buy coaching sessions with Adam
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10-01-2016 , 11:46 AM
Reason for Cbetting flop here in my opinion are:
- Getting Value from Draws & Kx that call
- Folding out random overcards(?) I guess in this spot we dont mind just taking the pot right away, as our hand is not strong enough to get several streets of value
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